NFL Honors award winners (Daboll is COTY, Mahomes is MVP)

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 2/10/2023 at 4:19 AM, uticaclub said:

Not surprised Mahomes won MVP, but KC is most likely a wildcard team without him Buffalo picks in the top 5 without Allen. Josh is more valuable

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Mahomes has a better offensive support system including Reid than Josh does. All Josh has is Diggs.

[Man with No Name]

Good for him on a job well done, but there are at least 4 coaches who did a better job than him this year. a silly, somewhat arbitrary award. 

[Chandler#81]

Chris Simms. Talk about a ‘fall from Grace’! That’ll teach ya to badmouth the Bills!

 

[BobbyC81]

  On 2/10/2023 at 7:42 AM, LABILLBACKER said:

Mahomes has a better offensive support system including Reid than Josh does. All Josh has is Diggs.

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C’mon, he also has Pro Bowl TE Dawson Knox, who scored a TD in the flag football game.

[BananaB]

  On 2/10/2023 at 3:51 AM, Einstein said:

Daboll won an award in his first year that Mcd hasn’t in 6 tries.

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I think a rookie coach that turns things around has an advantage in this category. Same as Stefanski did a few years ago. 

[McBean]

Congrats to WNY born and raised Brian Daboll on COTY.

 

Man, would’ve been nice if we had the opportunity to hire him as our coach.

[balln]

  On 2/10/2023 at 11:37 AM, McBean said:

Congrats to WNY born and raised Brian Daboll on COTY.

 

Man, would’ve been nice if we had the opportunity to hire him as our coach.

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The move was to leave McD and Frazier in the parking lot in kc and hire Daboll to continue to groom Josh and win Super Bowl in buffalo. But no. Too scared to conservative from owner down . This is professional sports. Gotta be cut throat 

[BillsPride12]

  On 2/10/2023 at 4:05 AM, FireChans said:

Guarantees an Eagles SB. No MVP has won the Super Bowl in over 20 years.

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Especially since Hurts should've won it over Mahomes this year 

[StHustle]

  On 2/10/2023 at 11:40 AM, balln said:

The move was to leave McD and Frazier in the parking lot in kc and hire Daboll to continue to groom Josh and win Super Bowl in buffalo. But no. Too scared to conservative from owner down . This is professional sports. Gotta be cut throat 

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Yeah let’s fire the winningest coach in franchise history and promote the OC to HC. Got it.

[balln]

  On 2/10/2023 at 11:49 AM, StHustle said:

Yeah let’s fire the winningest coach in franchise history and promote the OC to HC. Got it.

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Yes. Exactly. McD is only the “winningest” - honestly who give a f , only coaching stat that matters is Super Bowl wins - because he has Josh Allen and Daboll converted him into a superstar. 
 

his Defenses have been SOFT AND COLLAPSED WOEFULLY every playoff game

 

furhermore - and especially

relevant now - Daboll would have brought in wink and that giants D played a lot better scheme for championship ball then Mc Frazier 

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[StHustle]

  On 2/10/2023 at 11:51 AM, balln said:

furhermore - and especially

relevant now - Daboll would have brought in wink and that giants D played a lot better scheme for championship ball then Mc Frazier 

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You mean the defense that, in their final playoff game, gave up 38 points to a team that averaged 28 points? And coulda scored more but it was a 30 point blowout? Oh yeah that “championship ball” plying defense.

[balln]

  On 2/10/2023 at 12:00 PM, StHustle said:

You mean the defense that, in their final playoff game, gave up 38 points to a team that averaged 28 points? And coulda scored more but it was a 30 point blowout? Oh yeah that “championship ball” plying defense.

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Such an inferior roster. Comparison is dumb. I’m talking zone vs man. Scheming. Big game coaching. Ravens 

 

fine you can keep your winningiest Hc that loses in 13 seconds . Unbelievable 

[BarleyNY]

  On 2/10/2023 at 7:42 AM, LABILLBACKER said:

Mahomes has a better offensive support system including Reid than Josh does. All Josh has is Diggs.

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Reid is Mahomes’ big advantage. Both only have one good receiving option this season. KC has a better OL. Neither have anyone special at RB. The Bills had a better defense when everyone was healthy, but not by the end of the season. Mahomes and the Chiefs, of course, have achieved more. 
 

There’s also Burrow and Hurts to consider. Take out Hurts and you have the obvious top 3 IMO. I think the determining factor for me would be okay down the stretch. Allen stumbled by trying to do too much on too many plays. The other two did not falter the same way. I still have Mahomes over Burrow. He did more with a lot less receiving help. So it eems to me like he deserved it. He’s still the best player at the toughest position on the field. If Allen takes the plays the defenses give him and gets some help from Dorsey and Beane he could win MVP multiple times in years to come. 

[Einstein]

  On 2/10/2023 at 6:28 AM, Billl said:

COTY is stupid.  You can’t win it if you were good the year before.

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Sometimes.

 

But Belichick has also won coach of the year 3 times during the Patriots dynasty reign.

 

They were never bad

[Airseven]

  On 2/10/2023 at 3:51 AM, Einstein said:

Daboll won an award in his first year that Mcd hasn’t in 6 tries.

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That’s not fair. The opportunity was there for Daboll to improve a bad team. McDermott’s challenge to win that type of award is to take a good team to the Super Bowl. That climb has proven steeper.

[McBean]

  On 2/10/2023 at 11:40 AM, balln said:

The move was to leave McD and Frazier in the parking lot in kc and hire Daboll to continue to groom Josh and win Super Bowl in buffalo. But no. Too scared to conservative from owner down . This is professional sports. Gotta be cut throat 

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Couldn’t agree more.

 

When we don’t make playoffs this coming year or get bounced first round Frazier or Dorsey will get the ax.

 

McDermott could not win a game for 3 years and be ok. He’s the Pegula’s son.

 

 

[Franco_92]

  On 2/10/2023 at 5:45 AM, Airseven said:

Jets trajectory surpasses that of the Bills. They’re an above average, veteran QB away from overtaking the Bills.

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Even if this were true, who cares? Nobody stays "on trajectory" in the cap world. The bills spent 2.5 years as the darling that everyone wanted to be, and one game is apparently enough to make everyone here an unintelligent pisspot about them.

 

The bills have josh allen, the jets have never and will not soon have a qb like him, which will always give the bills an edge. If they get a qb like him, their AMAZEBALLS roster will eventually take hits like ours. 

 

You people are seriously getting impossible to stomach 

[Gregg]

Congrats to Daboll. To get 9 wins and a playoff win from that roster is impressive. 

[Einstein]

  On 2/10/2023 at 2:22 PM, Airseven said:

That’s not fair. The opportunity was there for Daboll to improve a bad team. McDermott’s challenge to win that type of award is to take a good team to the Super Bowl. That climb has proven steeper.

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It is fair.

 

- Belichick won 3 COTY awards while never having a losing season.

- Vrabel won COTY while after a AFCCG season.

- Harbaugh won COTY after a 10-6 season.

- McVay won CTOY while going to the Super Bowl.

 

 

 

[Matt_In_NH]

  On 2/10/2023 at 3:51 AM, Einstein said:

Daboll won an award in his first year that Mcd hasn’t in 6 tries.

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Does that make Dabol a better coach in your mind?  Mike Vrabel Kevin Stefanski, Matt Nagy, Jason Garrett, Ron Rivera, Lovie Smith Dick Jauron have won it too.