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1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

What would he cost???

 

 

Great question. He’s an absolute stud DE when healthy. Some team will roll the dice if the price is at all reasonable. 

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Ask anybody in DC and they will tell you he is the most overrated player in the league.

 

Someone is going to give him a huge contract and he’s Jadeveon Clowney at best.

 

Not picking up the 5th year option on a rookie contract should probably tell you something.

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1 minute ago, Rigotz said:

Ask anybody in DC and they will tell you he is the most overrated player in the league.

 

Someone is going to give him a huge contract and he’s Jadeveon Clowney at best.

 

Not picking up the 5th year option on a rookie contract should probably tell you something.


 

So Basham and a 3rd it is

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At one point he was the best player on the roster. Washington fans I know personally really question his injury return timeline and his love of the game. But to be honest, we have the same contingent that doubts Tre White as well. 

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16 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

Ask anybody in DC and they will tell you he is the most overrated player in the league.

 

Someone is going to give him a huge contract and he’s Jadeveon Clowney at best.

 

Not picking up the 5th year option on a rookie contract should probably tell you something.

I know the Bills can’t be in on him and I haven’t seen them play enough to have an opinion on whether he will earn the big contract he’ll get but i have seen enough to say he is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better than Clowney.  

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“We can’t afford him”

 

(Whispers) Trade Oliver and let Edmunds walk 

 

Im not saying we should do this .. I’m just saying we can 

 

 

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:


so this is kind of interesting because we pretty much consider Epenesa to be a bust, but he has more sacks does Chase


Epenesa is the guy I worry could be the defensive Wyatt Teller.   Not a pro-bowler at EDGE, but a legit pass rusher. 
 

He’s got some ability and is still figuring it out after our staff put him through a failed body transformation.  
 

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From the team that traded for Wentz, I can’t say I’m surprised.  They are idiots to not pick it up, he’s the type of guy you WANT to use it on.  You get another year with him on a lower salary, once he hits the market you are paying 20+ and a massive signing bonus.  Yeah he’s been injured, but when he’s on the field he’s been really good. 
 

Guys like Oliver and Edmunds are the worst types to use it on, if a guy hasn’t emerged by year 3, you don’t exercise the option, that’s when you play the game of a franchise tag if they finally blow up or take them at a lower price for longer term if they are staying as a “solid starter” type.  

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I find it hard to  believe he has been not 1.5 sacks in two seasons, but if true I am not picking up his option either. One season lost is one thing but two is a really bad signal that he is not healing properly. Tre missed a whole season and looked a little "less" when he came back but that is only one season lost. 

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43 minutes ago, SCBills said:

“We can’t afford him”

 

(Whispers) Trade Oliver and let Edmunds walk 

 

Im not saying we should do this .. I’m just saying we can 

 

 


Epenesa is the guy I worry could be the defensive Wyatt Teller.   Not a pro-bowler at EDGE, but a legit pass rusher. 
 

He’s got some ability and is still figuring it out after our staff put him through a failed body transformation.  
 

2 things.  Why would anybody trade for the production of Oliver and that contract? Maybe a 6th rounder at best for a desperate team.   You will be lucky to find any takers on a one year rental of a guy who has been consistently inconsistent.

 

And 2, this staff has been atrocious at identifying/developing talent on either line.  AJE won at Iowa by over powering sub par competition.  His combine showed a guy without the burst, bend and general athleticism to be an edge rusher in the NFL, so what do we do, try to make a square peg fit a round hole.  I don’t think you have to worry about him becoming much more than he is. 

3 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

I find it hard to  believe he has been not 1.5 sacks in two seasons, but if true I am not picking up his option either. One season lost is one thing but two is a really bad signal that he is not healing properly. Tre missed a whole season and looked a little "less" when he came back but that is only one season lost. 

He’s barely been on the field.

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55 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:


so this is kind of interesting because we pretty much consider Epenesa to be a bust, but he has more sacks does Chase

Chase has more trade value than Epenesa and Chase has barely played in two years. That tells you all you need to know about those dudes.

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1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Chase has more trade value than Epenesa and Chase has barely played in two years. That tells you all you need to know about those dudes.

Well Chase was #2 overall draft pick, AJE was drafted in the 2nd round

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Guy looked like a home run pick until he tore his ACL.  There'd be a lot of interest in him for a trade given how starved teams are for pass rushers.  The Bills would have to absorb his 11 million dollar cap hit though so they pry won't be players.

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to me it's 50/50 if this guy becomes a pass rushing monster or just flounders around as the most talented under performer.

 

i don't know exactly what it is, but there is little kook to being a sick pass rusher, and if that's there you get immediate and obvious impact, and if not you just don't.

 

jarred allen, max crosby, that guy who was in indy across from freeny (mathis?) all late picks, combine reports on all were like "meh, could play" and all of them were like day one monsters.  maybe not their best top level production, but you could tell they had something.

 

as over rated as the certainty of drafting OTs early (remember the mike lewis book and film?) and as well known the uncertainty of drafting an nfl qb is, i feel like sick pass rushers is just as unpredictable.  

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