Big Blitz Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 *taps mic* “Get er done Beane!” What would he cost??? 2 Quote
GolfandBills Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: *taps mic* “Get er done Beane!” What would he cost??? 20+ million a year Quote
BarleyNY Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: What would he cost??? Great question. He’s an absolute stud DE when healthy. Some team will roll the dice if the price is at all reasonable. Quote
Rigotz Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) Ask anybody in DC and they will tell you he is the most overrated player in the league. Someone is going to give him a huge contract and he’s Jadeveon Clowney at best. Not picking up the 5th year option on a rookie contract should probably tell you something. Edited February 10, 2023 by Rigotz 2 2 Quote
Big Blitz Posted February 10, 2023 Author Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Rigotz said: Ask anybody in DC and they will tell you he is the most overrated player in the league. Someone is going to give him a huge contract and he’s Jadeveon Clowney at best. Not picking up the 5th year option on a rookie contract should probably tell you something. So Basham and a 3rd it is 1 1 2 Quote
benderbender Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 At one point he was the best player on the roster. Washington fans I know personally really question his injury return timeline and his love of the game. But to be honest, we have the same contingent that doubts Tre White as well. 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 This would be super dumb of the Redskins to not pick up that 5th year. 1 Quote
US Egg Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 Kids gonna make generational family affecting money. Good for him. Quote
4merper4mer Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Ask anybody in DC and they will tell you he is the most overrated player in the league. Someone is going to give him a huge contract and he’s Jadeveon Clowney at best. Not picking up the 5th year option on a rookie contract should probably tell you something. I know the Bills can’t be in on him and I haven’t seen them play enough to have an opinion on whether he will earn the big contract he’ll get but i have seen enough to say he is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better than Clowney. 2 Quote
John from Riverside Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 so this is kind of interesting because we pretty much consider Epenesa to be a bust, but he has more sacks does Chase 1 Quote
SCBills Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) “We can’t afford him” (Whispers) Trade Oliver and let Edmunds walk Im not saying we should do this .. I’m just saying we can 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: so this is kind of interesting because we pretty much consider Epenesa to be a bust, but he has more sacks does Chase Epenesa is the guy I worry could be the defensive Wyatt Teller. Not a pro-bowler at EDGE, but a legit pass rusher. He’s got some ability and is still figuring it out after our staff put him through a failed body transformation. Edited February 10, 2023 by SCBills 1 1 Quote
DCofNC Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 From the team that traded for Wentz, I can’t say I’m surprised. They are idiots to not pick it up, he’s the type of guy you WANT to use it on. You get another year with him on a lower salary, once he hits the market you are paying 20+ and a massive signing bonus. Yeah he’s been injured, but when he’s on the field he’s been really good. Guys like Oliver and Edmunds are the worst types to use it on, if a guy hasn’t emerged by year 3, you don’t exercise the option, that’s when you play the game of a franchise tag if they finally blow up or take them at a lower price for longer term if they are staying as a “solid starter” type. 2 Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 I find it hard to believe he has been not 1.5 sacks in two seasons, but if true I am not picking up his option either. One season lost is one thing but two is a really bad signal that he is not healing properly. Tre missed a whole season and looked a little "less" when he came back but that is only one season lost. Quote
DCofNC Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 43 minutes ago, SCBills said: “We can’t afford him” (Whispers) Trade Oliver and let Edmunds walk Im not saying we should do this .. I’m just saying we can Epenesa is the guy I worry could be the defensive Wyatt Teller. Not a pro-bowler at EDGE, but a legit pass rusher. He’s got some ability and is still figuring it out after our staff put him through a failed body transformation. 2 things. Why would anybody trade for the production of Oliver and that contract? Maybe a 6th rounder at best for a desperate team. You will be lucky to find any takers on a one year rental of a guy who has been consistently inconsistent. And 2, this staff has been atrocious at identifying/developing talent on either line. AJE won at Iowa by over powering sub par competition. His combine showed a guy without the burst, bend and general athleticism to be an edge rusher in the NFL, so what do we do, try to make a square peg fit a round hole. I don’t think you have to worry about him becoming much more than he is. 3 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: I find it hard to believe he has been not 1.5 sacks in two seasons, but if true I am not picking up his option either. One season lost is one thing but two is a really bad signal that he is not healing properly. Tre missed a whole season and looked a little "less" when he came back but that is only one season lost. He’s barely been on the field. 1 1 Quote
LeGOATski Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 I'm surprised to see he only has 1.5 sacks over the last 2 years. I don't follow him or the Commanders closely, but he always seems to be a presence. Quote
FireChans Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 55 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: so this is kind of interesting because we pretty much consider Epenesa to be a bust, but he has more sacks does Chase Chase has more trade value than Epenesa and Chase has barely played in two years. That tells you all you need to know about those dudes. 2 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Chase has more trade value than Epenesa and Chase has barely played in two years. That tells you all you need to know about those dudes. Well Chase was #2 overall draft pick, AJE was drafted in the 2nd round 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 Guy looked like a home run pick until he tore his ACL. There'd be a lot of interest in him for a trade given how starved teams are for pass rushers. The Bills would have to absorb his 11 million dollar cap hit though so they pry won't be players. Quote
colin Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 to me it's 50/50 if this guy becomes a pass rushing monster or just flounders around as the most talented under performer. i don't know exactly what it is, but there is little kook to being a sick pass rusher, and if that's there you get immediate and obvious impact, and if not you just don't. jarred allen, max crosby, that guy who was in indy across from freeny (mathis?) all late picks, combine reports on all were like "meh, could play" and all of them were like day one monsters. maybe not their best top level production, but you could tell they had something. as over rated as the certainty of drafting OTs early (remember the mike lewis book and film?) and as well known the uncertainty of drafting an nfl qb is, i feel like sick pass rushers is just as unpredictable. 1 Quote
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