New DC assistant hired / Carolina ReTread

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, Back2Buff said:

 

Many HC also runs their respective sides of the ball, including the two teams in the Super Bowl.

Come to think of it, I seem to recall McDermott stepping into a game where he didn't like what he saw was happening on defense a few years back.  A quick Google search didn't find specifics regarding that incident.

Edited February 9, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[Sargent Hulka]

15 hours ago, Success said:

I wish there was not a Carolina connection.  It really begs the question - are you only comfortable hiring guys you already know?

It's also indicative that this management are stuck on familiar in other aspects; they are not innovative, and that makes them easier to predict and counter.

15 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

Where was this comment when they fired a coach who had been on staff since 2017 and replaced him with Joe Danna who has no connection to McBeane? 😂

A broken clock...

[Sargent Hulka]

15 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

Wow!    I can’t believe the emphatic negativity about a guy nobody knows much about.   He may end up being a good addition to the staff.   None of us is in a position to know otherwise.

Experience says otherwise.

[Sargent Hulka]

14 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

What a toxic place this has become. Yikes. Fresh air and grass would do some of y’all some good. 

Why is dissent toxic? This management has us in cap hell, has drafted poorly, have no accountability, and have not progressed. You sound appeased!

[Jauronimo]

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[Jauronimo]

Winning teams hire the coaches children to assistant positions.  The fact that neither Madeline or Gavin is holding a clipboard is a real indictment on McD as a coach and a father.

[Low Positive]

26 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Come to think of it, I seem to recall McDermott stepping into a game where he didn't like what he as happening on defense a few years back.  A quick Google search didn't find specifics regarding that incident.

Second half of the game against the chargers in 2018.

[Mr. WEO]

6 pages for this scandalous hiring?!

[That's No Moon]

15 hours ago, Augie said:

If we joined the ‘72 Dolphins as the only other undefeated team and SB Champs, our strength of schedule would be too weak, and our point differential would be disappointing. 

 

 

With some….. 

Let's do that and see how I feel about it. Right now we have what can only be described as a perennial playoff disappointment. 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

16 hours ago, balln said:

I mean ….. your head HC is a defensive coach. You don’t fire your DC….. so why hire a senior defensive coach????? It’s bizarre 

Don’t need a bandaid ! Need an overhaul !

Just following the Nate Hackett example of hiring a coach to coach the head coach….

[Sargent Hulka]

14 hours ago, JGMcD2 said:

You made the comment they have a tough time going out of their comfort zone/circle with the Carolina connection. You really want me to do this?

 

The Bills have 26 members listed under their coaching staff (not including McDermott)… Al Holcomb will be #27. 
 

These are the guys who crossed over in Carolina (6):

 

Ken Dorsey

Bobby Babich

Mike Shula 

Eric Washington

Matt Worswick

Al Holcomb

 

These are the guys who don’t have any Carolina connection (21): 

 

Leslie Frazier

Matthew Smiley

Rob Boras 

Joe Brady

John Butler

Joe Danna 

Chad Hall

Aaron Kromer 

Jaylon Finner

Austin Gund

Cory Harkey 

Marc Lubick

Kyle Shurmur 

Kelly Skipper

Ryan Wendell

Marcus West

Eric Ciano

Will Greenberg 

Hal Luther 

Nick Lacy

Jason Oszvart

Looking at the front office quick… they have 9 people with VP, Director or Assistant Director titles in football operations. 

 

No Carolina connection (9):

 

Jim Overdorf

Kevin Meganck

Brian Gaine

Terrance Gray

Malik Boyd

Matt Bazirgan

Lake Dawson

Chris Marrow

Curtus Rukavina 

 

So what? 36 people across coaching and football operations and 6 of them have ties to Carolina. 

 

Could also point to people like Dan Morgan (SEA), Joe Schoen (NYG) and Brian Daboll (NYG) as guys outside their comfort zone who were brought in to fill roles on the staff. There’s also David Culley, Bobby Johnson, Shea Tierney, Bob Babich, Jim Salgado, Danny Crossman and Heath Farwell. 
 

 

As a subset of Carolina connected coaching and football ops, you have to include McDermott and Beane. That makes 8 out of 36. But, you completely left out the gaggle of former Carolina players, from Mike Tolbert to Mario Addison, and every one in between.

[BrooklynBills]

15 hours ago, nucci said:

Replace Frazier when he leaves

 

Leslie Frazier is 64.  I would guess Bobby Babich is probably in line to be the team's next DC sooner rather than later.  He is currently the LBs coach.  Al Holcomb is a well respected LB coach in the NFL and has been a DC in two different places.

 

Read between the lines.

[nucci]

4 minutes ago, BrooklynBills said:

 

Leslie Frazier is 64.  I would guess Bobby Babich is probably in line to be the team's next DC sooner rather than later.  He is currently the LBs coach.  Al Holcomb is a well respected LB coach in the NFL and has been a DC in two different places.

 

Read between the lines.

well, it is what it is....you never know, only time will tell

[Rc2catch]

28 minutes ago, Sargent Hulka said:

Why is dissent toxic? This management has us in cap hell, has drafted poorly, have no accountability, and have not progressed. You sound appeased!

[BrooklynBills]

What is more interesting is that Al Holcomb is going to be called "Senior defensive assistant" when the Bills already have Eric Washington on staff as "senior defensive assistant/DL coach."  I haven't seen too many instances where a team has 2 senior assistants.

[BillsFan4]

12 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

You might want to read this

https://theathletic.com/3169524/2022/03/09/joe-brady-wasnt-the-bills-first-choice-but-hiring-him-as-their-new-qbs-coach-is-a-coup/

 

Brady worked for Carolina years after McDermott had already left. I’m failing to see the significance. By the time Brady was hired in Carolina there was a new head coach (who came from the college ranks and had no ties to McDermott), a new GM and a new owner.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

28 minutes ago, BrooklynBills said:

 

Leslie Frazier is 64.  I would guess Bobby Babich is probably in line to be the team's next DC sooner rather than later.  He is currently the LBs coach.  Al Holcomb is a well respected LB coach in the NFL and has been a DC in two different places.

 

Read between the lines.

There is definitely a possibility Frazier retires.

[LABILLBACKER]

4 hours ago, TAinLA said:

Getting ready to replace Frazier after next years playoff failure.

I guess....God forbid we make the change now. But sure let's waste another year with Frazier. 

[transient]

16 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Here is what I believe they desperately wanted to add Steve Wilkes to the staff the 49ers gave him an offer he couldn’t refuse…Bills went with plan B his defensive coordinator 

I was hoping for Wilkes, as well. It seemed to me a way to bring in a more aggressive philosophy without changing scheme, thereby avoiding player turnover. Hopefully this hiring is a message to Frazier that the heat has been turned up and if he doesn't adjust the way he calls the defense his time is up. I'm sick of hearing commentators say "Leslie Frazier blitzes less than anyone else in the league" while they're trying to fill the dead air as opposing QBs are chillin' in the pocket.

[JGMcD2]

1 hour ago, Sargent Hulka said:

As a subset of Carolina connected coaching and football ops, you have to include McDermott and Beane. That makes 8 out of 36. But, you completely left out the gaggle of former Carolina players, from Mike Tolbert to Mario Addison, and every one in between.

I said in my post excluding McDermott and it was implied with Beane… so it’s 8/38… because you’d have to add them to the denominator. Semantics. 

 

We weren’t talking about players… the discussion was about staff. 

Edited February 9, 2023 by JGMcD2