Mr. WEO Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 If their employee came to them and reported this, is Marriot supposed to ignore her claims about Irvin's alleged comments/behavior while she was on the job? What is the basis of his suit? 1 Quote
MJS Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) It's just a he-said, she-said case now. I can see both sides. One of them is lying. Rich and powerful people like Irvin think they can get away with anything, though. Add alcohol and you have a walking, talking, potential lawsuit around every corner. Edited March 11, 2023 by MJS 3 Quote
aristocrat Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Wonder how many times that line worked for big mike? 1 1 Quote
Saxum Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 Many times accused will find witnesses "who saw nothing". People have been murdered and with people in room and some people will have seen nothing. It all depends on your point of view and how much you were paying attention to that particular thing at that particular time. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 12, 2023 Posted March 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Many times accused will find witnesses "who saw nothing". People have been murdered and with people in room and some people will have seen nothing. It all depends on your point of view and how much you were paying attention to that particular thing at that particular time. 1 1 Quote
chongli Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) Video from the hotel released by Michael Irvin: https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2023/03/14/michael-irvin-refiles-lawsuit-vs-marriott-in-arizona-will-release-surveillance-video/ Edited March 14, 2023 by chongli 1 Quote
Just Jack Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 5:06 PM, Mr. WEO said: If their employee came to them and reported this, is Marriot supposed to ignore her claims about Irvin's alleged comments/behavior while she was on the job? What is the basis of his suit? No. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, chongli said: Video from the hotel released by Michael Irvin: https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2023/03/14/michael-irvin-refiles-lawsuit-vs-marriott-in-arizona-will-release-surveillance-video/ Florio already starting to tiptoe backwards... "Reasonable minds may differ as to whether the characterization does or doesn’t mesh with Marriott’s version. That’s a potential problem for Irvin, frankly. He’s accused of making lewd comments to the employee. He has admitted that he had been drinking. If the employee has told a consistent, unimpeachable story to Marriott management and NFL representative(s) who investigated the situation, it could be difficult to prove that her explanation fails to match the video." 1 Quote
BattlinBill Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 Where are all the witnesses he said he had with all their stories? Don't see anyone close enough to overhear that whole conversation. Quote
Man with No Name Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, BattlinBill said: Where are all the witnesses he said he had with all their stories? Don't see anyone close enough to overhear that whole conversation. you know he's a very loud talker, right? 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Florio already starting to tiptoe backwards... "Reasonable minds may differ as to whether the characterization does or doesn’t mesh with Marriott’s version. That’s a potential problem for Irvin, frankly. He’s accused of making lewd comments to the employee. He has admitted that he had been drinking. If the employee has told a consistent, unimpeachable story to Marriott management and NFL representative(s) who investigated the situation, it could be difficult to prove that her explanation fails to match the video." Why wouldn't he change his opinion when new info comes to light? It's what reasonable people do. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Why wouldn't he change his opinion when new info comes to light? It's what reasonable people do. The video was inevitably going to put shade on his shoot from the hip original opinion. It was an unforced error. Quote
BillsFanSD Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Why wouldn't he change his opinion when new info comes to light? It's what reasonable people do. Reasonable people don't jump to conclusions in the first place. Quote
BattlinBill Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 20 hours ago, Man with No Name said: you know he's a very loud talker, right? Of course, I'm sure the bar area was nice and quiet as well... Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 I don't understand why he's not suing the NFL or the network that pulled him off the game? Makes no sense to sue the hotel when they were simply reporting an incident an on the job employee made and that the NFL asked the hotel to do beforehand. Quote
papazoid Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 “I don’t really recall that conversation, to tell you the truth,” Irvin told the Dallas Morning News. “We were out drinking. It was just a friendly conversation. ‘What’s up?’ I don’t even know. … I am totally perplexed. That’s honestly all that happened.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/02/10/michael-irvin-sues-accuser-marriott-after-super-bowl-week-incident/11229565002/ he admits he had been drinking and cant remmber what was said. his defense now is after having seen the video is that the accuser did not act like i said something bad 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, papazoid said: “I don’t really recall that conversation, to tell you the truth,” Irvin told the Dallas Morning News. “We were out drinking. It was just a friendly conversation. ‘What’s up?’ I don’t even know. … I am totally perplexed. That’s honestly all that happened.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/02/10/michael-irvin-sues-accuser-marriott-after-super-bowl-week-incident/11229565002/ he admits he had been drinking and cant remmber what was said. his defense now is after having seen the video is that the accuser did not act like i said something bad who to believe here. person or renowned cocaine and kitty fiend Michael Irvin? Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, papazoid said: “I don’t really recall that conversation, to tell you the truth,” Irvin told the Dallas Morning News. “We were out drinking. It was just a friendly conversation. ‘What’s up?’ I don’t even know. … I am totally perplexed. That’s honestly all that happened.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2023/02/10/michael-irvin-sues-accuser-marriott-after-super-bowl-week-incident/11229565002/ he admits he had been drinking and cant remmber what was said. his defense now is after having seen the video is that the accuser did not act like i said something bad he doesn’t know, he doesn’t recall….yet he states “honestly, that’s all that happened”. lol dumbass. He needs a gag order Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 16, 2023 Posted March 16, 2023 Irvin s clearly drunk af. He keeps pushing his hips forward to her, its not over the top, but noticeable. She steps back, seems noticeably offput but an elbow touch. Weird thing to react to unless hes acting like a pig. Just have a hard time believing all that is coincidence, especially with his reputation. Not to mention, she had nothing to gain here, HE filed suit, not her. Pretty logical something happened and she went to a boss to ask to not be put in the situation again. Very reasonable request by a nobody trying to do her job. Then he tosses around lynching comments, and sues them? Hope she countersues, this threw a wrench in her life because he couldnt handle a little heat 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 Just watched the video, and I think this whole thing gets thrown out on both sides. Even if Irvin said what the woman claims, I don’t see how it’s going to be proven. And yeah, repulsive if he said what she claims, but her body language appeared at ease to me, versus trying to walk away and get back to work. If anything, her boss/coworker appeared annoyed when she got back, so it’s possible she altered the version of events even a little, to cover her own butt. And then realized she had to carry on with that story, for the sake of her job. Again though, I don’t see how the video and her word will implicate him. 1 Quote
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