UPDATED - v3.0 (FINAL) on p.13 - Gunner's 2023 Mock Draft

[BADOLBILZ]

16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Okay after a small misstep this morning where the first time I thought I'd completed it I realised there was no JSN, here is my final version 3.0 for 2023. This is the mock I will grade myself against tomorrow. 

 

1.      Carolina Panthers – Bryce Young, Quarterback, Alabama

This pick is the one pick that everyone will get right. It’s locked in. The Panthers are going to make Bryce Young their Quarterback of the future and finally hope to have a long term heir to Cam Newton.

 

2.      Houston Texans – Tyree Wilson, EDGE, Texas Tech

The thing you need to know about this pick is that DeMeco Ryans is making it. There has been something of a power struggle in Houston this spring and the Head Coach has won. Nick Caserio could well be out after the draft. Ryans comes from San Fran where they love long edge guys and none in this class are longer than Wilson.

 

3.      Arizona Cardinals – Will Anderson, EDGE, Alabama

I am sticking with Will Anderson here. The Cardinals have been doing a lot of work on Paris Johnson Jnr, but my belief is that is in the event that they trade back or that Anderson is gone before they select. Anderson is an instant difference maker in a pretty talent deficient front 7.

 

4.      Indianapolis Colts – Will Levis, Quarterback, Kentucky

Remember in draft season believe what you hear in January, dismiss what you hear in March. What I heard in January (indeed even in December) was that Colts GM Chris Ballard was enamoured with Levis. I’m going to stick with my gut. He is the Colts pick.

 

5.      Seattle Seahawks – Jalen Carter, Defensive Tackle, Georgia

I think Seattle might consider Richardson if he is there (as he is in this mock) but this draft just isn’t strong enough to let a player of Carter’s talent slide. Pete Carroll has never shied away from taking on talented guys with off-field baggage and they have a huge need on their defensive interior.

 

6.      Detroit Lions – Devon Witherspoon, Cornerback, Illinois

Equally if Carter gets past the Seahawks I think the Lions pull the trigger. But if he doesn’t then this comes down to the best corner on their board. I believe that for this scheme and this staff that would be Witherspoon.

 

7.      Las Vegas Raiders – Christian Gonzalez, Cornerback, Oregon

Even with two Quarterbacks still on the board I’m not sure the Raiders go in that direction. This is offensive line or corner and I think corner is arguably the biggest weakness of the roster. Gonzalez is also the best player available by my board.

 

8.      Atlanta Falcons – Bijan Robinson, Running Back, Texas

If both of the top two edge guys and the top two corners are gone I can imagine Atlanta would be desperate to get out of this spot. However, what we know about this regime so far is it likes spending top 10 picks on offensive weaponry. A tight end in 2021. A wide receiver in 2022. A running back in 2023? Arthur Smith got his Head Coaching job on the back of Derick Henry’s exploits in Tennessee, maybe he looks to another runner to help him retain it.

 

9.      Chicago Bears – Paris Johnson Jnr, Offensive Tackle, Ohio State

I think the Bears will go offensive line with this pick. Skoronski could come into the reckoning, but I think you start with a guy that you know can lock down the left tackle and Justin Fields blind side. That is former Buckeye Paris Johnson.

 

10.   Philadelphia Eagles – Nolan Smith, EDGE, Georgia

The Eagles don’t have a lot of immediate needs but they do have a future need at edge. Former first round pick Derek Barnett is a free agent after this coming season, Brandon Graham is about to turn 36 and Josh Sweat is a nice player but not a true #1 rusher. I had Lukas Van Ness here in version 2.0 and he still feels like a better scheme fit, but multiple media guys I trust have reported the Eagles love Smith.

 

11.   Tennessee Titans – Anthony Richardson, Quarterback, Florida

There was a lot of talk two or three weeks back about Tennessee trying to trade up for Richardson. That talk has cooled and I wonder if that is, in part, because the way the top 5 is shaping up the Titans feel like they can get Richardson at their original spot, as they do here. The future is now in Nashville.

 

12.   Houston Texans – CJ Stroud, Quarterback, Ohio State

I confess it takes some mental agility for me to make sense of this. But Houston are dead set on a top pass rusher and a Quarterback with these picks according to John McClain their respected local beat guy. The only place to get one of the top two rushers is #2 so if they don’t love any of the other Quarterbacks after Young maybe they are willing to wait it out and take whoever gets here, or trade back up?

 

13.   Green Bay Packers – Peter Skoronski, Offensive Tackle, Northwestern  

Jaxon Smith-Njigba is reportedly very highly rated by the Green Bay decision makers but I was told by a plugged in Packers blogger that if he is there, Skoronski will be the pick.

 

14.   New England Patriots – Zay Flowers, Wide Receiver, Boston College

Which means Zay Flowers would be the first wide receiver off the board if the Patriots really do love him as much as the buzz suggests. He does have that quick twitch acceleration which is a need in their offense and he comes from a non-football powerhouse school in the north-east which is Bill’s MO. A lot of the pieces fit.

 

15.   New York Jets – Broderick Jones, Offensive Tackle, Georgia

If the Jets are able to snag Jones even after sliding back two spots as part of the Aaron Rodgers trade that is a massive win for them. With question marks of Mekhi Becton’s future and Duane Brown turning 38 before the season kicks off, tackle is a huge need.

 

16.   Washington Commanders – Emmanuel Forbes, Cornerback, Mississippi State

One of the most buzzy prospects in the final week or two of draft season has been Emmanuel Forbes. His slight frame is a concern but the more teams have dug into his tape the more the ball production has stood out. A number of teams now have him as CB3 and one of those is allegedly the Commanders who have a need at the position.

 

17.   Pittsburgh Steelers – Darnell Wright, Offensive Tackle, Tennessee

In version 2.0 I considered Wright to the Steelers at this spot. Their need at tackle is significant but I wondered whether they would see a right tackle only guy like Wright as providing sufficient value at the spot. The reporting I’ve heard since suggests they would. Therefore he is the pick.

 

18.   Detroit Lions – Calijah Kancey, Defensive Tackle, Pittsburgh

I don’t love this pick, he feels small to me for a Dan Campbell guy, but they are looking for an interior penetrator and I think Kancey will land somewhere in the first round, so maybe this is the most likely spot.

 

19.   Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Anton Harrison, Offensive Tackle, Oklahoma

The teens are where I expect the offensive tackles to fly off the board. The Buccs seem as though their preference is to shift all pro right tackle Tristan Wirfs to left tackle, which makes sense, and would allow Harrison to ease his way into the NFL on the right side. They have met with him twice in the pre-draft process.

 

20.   Seattle Seahawks – Lukas Van Ness, EDGE, Iowa

This pick is one of the hardest to predict in the entire round I think. I’ve had them going safety, I’ve had them going guard, but I wonder if they might spend back to back picks on the defensive front? This is the sort of range where Van Ness might come off the board and he can play inside or outside in Seattle’s scheme.

 

21.   Los Angeles Chargers – Dalton Kincaid, Tight End, Utah

This was the pick I didn’t make in version 2.0 and then most wished I had afterwards. The Chargers love big passing game targets and while I still think this is the first pick where Quinten Johnston is in-play, their depth at tight end is thinner. Kincaid would start as a rookie.

 

22.   Baltimore Ravens – Joey Porter Jnr, Cornerback, Penn State

Joey Porter Jnr, the man whose father was an all-pro linebacker for the hated Pittsburgh Steelers in the purple and black? I think this a classic case of the Ravens waiting for the draft to come to them and taking the best football player. Marcus Peters has departed and there is a hole opposite Marlon Humphrey.

 

23.   Minnesota Vikings – Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Wide Receiver, Ohio State

I think Minnesota would take any of the consensus top three corners if they fell to them but if they don’t maybe they’d wait on corner and consider an offensive weapon. The Vikings have met with all of the projected top receivers and are looking for a cost controlled running mate for Justin Jefferson as they prepare to make him the league’s highest paid receiver.

 

24.   Jacksonville Jaguars – Brian Branch, Safety, Alabama

The Jaguars will definitely attack their secondary in this draft. I have had them going corner here but I just wonder if the superior depth at corner could tempt them to wait on that spot. Conversely there is very little depth behind Brian Branch at safety and he is worthy of this selection.

 

25.   New York Giants – Deonte Banks, Cornerback, Maryland

I have been told it will definitely be a receiver or a corner for the Giants at #25 but that the front office have been “leaning towards a corner” in recent weeks. So while Quinten Johnston and Jordan Addison are definitely in play here I think Banks would be a serious consideration if he is there.

 

26.   Dallas Cowboys – Michael Mayer, Tight End, Note Dame

I had Kincaid here in version 2.0, but with the Utah standout already selected here I am leaning towards Mayer. I think it is an immediate need for the Cowboys and there is a bit of a young Jason Witten about this pick.

 

27.   Buffalo Bills – Jordan Addison, Wide Receiver, USC

I have had the Bills going receiver in all three versions. I think the alternatives are that they really like Anton Harrison or one of the defensive tackles. And if Addison is gone, that is the direction I’d seen them edging towards. However, they have met with Addison three times this spring. The interest is clear. Don’t rule out a small trade up if they think it is necessary to land him.

 

28.   Cincinnati Bengals – Brian Bresee, Defensive Tackle, Clemson

With both of the tight ends gone and five corners already selected the value that best matches up with a need for the Bengals is at defensive tackle. I think Bresee is going to sneak into the back of the first round somewhere.

 

29.   New Orleans Saints – Myles Murphy, EDGE, Clemson

The smoke seems to suggest that Murphy is going to slide towards the end of the first round. I’m not really sure why, but the Saints have met with him twice and they have a big edge need. His body type is similar to what they just lost in free agency from Marcus Davenport and Cam Jordan can’t go on forever!

 

30.   Philadelphia Eagles – Jahmyr Gibbs, Running Back, Alabama

The Eagles lost Miles Sanders to the Panthers in free agency and while they have dependable backup options such as Kenneth Gainwell, Boston Scott and Rashaad Penny I’m not sure any of those strike fear into opposing defenses. To maximise the RPO threat of Jalen Hurts I feel they need a dynamic runner and could use their second first round pick to secure one.

 

31.   Kansas City Chiefs – Will McDonald IV, EDGE, Iowa State

I think if there is a team likely to make a big jump up on draft night it might, for the second year running, be the Kansas City Chiefs. Offensive tackle would be their target if any of the top guys get into the 20s. If not I expect them to look for a Frank Clark replacement here. They have showed a lot of interest in McDonald who is the type of versatile player Steve Spagnuolo loves.

 

 

There we have it.... no Quinten Johnston, no Keion White and no Mazi Smith. I think those are the three guys I feel like have the best chance of landing in round 1 that are not in my 31. 

 

 

That mock feels right.    Agree about the omissions........those guys feel like second rounders to me.    The teams that picked RB's feel like RB-pickers, IMO as well.  Btw Kiper just released his last this am.........and sometimes he gets some good inside tips on that version.........Will McDonald eventually went to the Bills in that version.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

That mock feels right.    Agree about the omissions........those guys feel like second rounders to me.    The teams that picked RB's feel like RB-pickers, IMO as well.  Btw Kiper just released his last this am.........and sometimes he gets some good inside tips on that version.........Will McDonald eventually went to the Bills in that version.

 

I don't have access to ESPN+ or whatever it's called. So unless someone sends it to me (which of course nobody would ever do because it would breach copyright  ) I don't see Mel's stuff. But agree what everyone is doing at this stage is trying to read tea leaves and the big network guys and piecing together conversations that they have had. It's one of the reasons I've moved Nolan Smith up. I think that's a funky fit myself, and until the past 24 hours nobody has had it. But suddenly some of the guys who have got sources have gone that way and that suggests to me they have got information. 

 

I like McDonald as a player, but drafting a raw 24 year old rookie who played 5 tech in college to play the 7 and the 9 in the NFL? I mean it's a rich gamble for my tastes. 

[MrEpsYtown]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't have access to ESPN+ or whatever it's called. So unless someone sends it to me (which of course nobody would ever do because it would breach copyright  ) I don't see Mel's stuff. But agree what everyone is doing at this stage is trying to read tea leaves and the big network guys and piecing together conversations that they have had. It's one of the reasons I've moved Nolan Smith up. I think that's a funky fit myself, and until the past 24 hours nobody has had it. But suddenly some of the guys who have got sources have gone that way and that suggests to me they have got information. 

 

I like McDonald as a player, but drafting a raw 24 year old rookie who played 5 tech in college to play the 7 and the 9 in the NFL? I mean it's a rich gamble for my tastes. 

Mel loves McDonald so it seems he has him higher than most

[Dave_Bills]

If we can get Addison without trading up that's a huge win in my book. He has special qualities

[BADOLBILZ]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't have access to ESPN+ or whatever it's called. So unless someone sends it to me (which of course nobody would ever do because it would breach copyright  ) I don't see Mel's stuff. But agree what everyone is doing at this stage is trying to read tea leaves and the big network guys and piecing together conversations that they have had. It's one of the reasons I've moved Nolan Smith up. I think that's a funky fit myself, and until the past 24 hours nobody has had it. But suddenly some of the guys who have got sources have gone that way and that suggests to me they have got information. 

 

I like McDonald as a player, but drafting a raw 24 year old rookie who played 5 tech in college to play the 7 and the 9 in the NFL? I mean it's a rich gamble for my tastes. 

 

 

Yeah I really like McDonald and have thought he might end up BPA at a premium position that is left at 27 at times recently.   But I have a hard time not slotting Addison above him if he is there due to age.    If McDonald were 21 with those traits it's a different looking projection.   He is one of the more interesting stories, IMO.

[Big Blitz]

If the Texans don’t go QB at 2 they aren’t going QB at all.  I just don’t see it.  
 

That to me is the biggest question in this draft.  
 

Does Ryans want to wait till next year for a QB and try to load up that defense now?  
 

I’m not sure what we would want to do.  Probably take Stroud at 2.  

[BuffaloBillyG]

36 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Okay after a small misstep this morning where the first time I thought I'd completed it I realised there was no JSN, here is my final version 3.0 for 2023. This is the mock I will grade myself against tomorrow. 

 

1.      Carolina Panthers – Bryce Young, Quarterback, Alabama

This pick is the one pick that everyone will get right. It’s locked in. The Panthers are going to make Bryce Young their Quarterback of the future and finally hope to have a long term heir to Cam Newton.

 

2.      Houston Texans – Tyree Wilson, EDGE, Texas Tech

The thing you need to know about this pick is that DeMeco Ryans is making it. There has been something of a power struggle in Houston this spring and the Head Coach has won. Nick Caserio could well be out after the draft. Ryans comes from San Fran where they love long edge guys and none in this class are longer than Wilson.

 

3.      Arizona Cardinals – Will Anderson, EDGE, Alabama

I am sticking with Will Anderson here. The Cardinals have been doing a lot of work on Paris Johnson Jnr, but my belief is that is in the event that they trade back or that Anderson is gone before they select. Anderson is an instant difference maker in a pretty talent deficient front 7.

 

4.      Indianapolis Colts – Will Levis, Quarterback, Kentucky

Remember in draft season believe what you hear in January, dismiss what you hear in March. What I heard in January (indeed even in December) was that Colts GM Chris Ballard was enamoured with Levis. I’m going to stick with my gut. He is the Colts pick.

 

5.      Seattle Seahawks – Jalen Carter, Defensive Tackle, Georgia

I think Seattle might consider Richardson if he is there (as he is in this mock) but this draft just isn’t strong enough to let a player of Carter’s talent slide. Pete Carroll has never shied away from taking on talented guys with off-field baggage and they have a huge need on their defensive interior.

 

6.      Detroit Lions – Devon Witherspoon, Cornerback, Illinois

Equally if Carter gets past the Seahawks I think the Lions pull the trigger. But if he doesn’t then this comes down to the best corner on their board. I believe that for this scheme and this staff that would be Witherspoon.

 

7.      Las Vegas Raiders – Christian Gonzalez, Cornerback, Oregon

Even with two Quarterbacks still on the board I’m not sure the Raiders go in that direction. This is offensive line or corner and I think corner is arguably the biggest weakness of the roster. Gonzalez is also the best player available by my board.

 

8.      Atlanta Falcons – Bijan Robinson, Running Back, Texas

If both of the top two edge guys and the top two corners are gone I can imagine Atlanta would be desperate to get out of this spot. However, what we know about this regime so far is it likes spending top 10 picks on offensive weaponry. A tight end in 2021. A wide receiver in 2022. A running back in 2023? Arthur Smith got his Head Coaching job on the back of Derick Henry’s exploits in Tennessee, maybe he looks to another runner to help him retain it.

 

9.      Chicago Bears – Paris Johnson Jnr, Offensive Tackle, Ohio State

I think the Bears will go offensive line with this pick. Skoronski could come into the reckoning, but I think you start with a guy that you know can lock down the left tackle and Justin Fields blind side. That is former Buckeye Paris Johnson.

 

10.   Philadelphia Eagles – Nolan Smith, EDGE, Georgia

The Eagles don’t have a lot of immediate needs but they do have a future need at edge. Former first round pick Derek Barnett is a free agent after this coming season, Brandon Graham is about to turn 36 and Josh Sweat is a nice player but not a true #1 rusher. I had Lukas Van Ness here in version 2.0 and he still feels like a better scheme fit, but multiple media guys I trust have reported the Eagles love Smith.

 

11.   Tennessee Titans – Anthony Richardson, Quarterback, Florida

There was a lot of talk two or three weeks back about Tennessee trying to trade up for Richardson. That talk has cooled and I wonder if that is, in part, because the way the top 5 is shaping up the Titans feel like they can get Richardson at their original spot, as they do here. The future is now in Nashville.

 

12.   Houston Texans – CJ Stroud, Quarterback, Ohio State

I confess it takes some mental agility for me to make sense of this. But Houston are dead set on a top pass rusher and a Quarterback with these picks according to John McClain their respected local beat guy. The only place to get one of the top two rushers is #2 so if they don’t love any of the other Quarterbacks after Young maybe they are willing to wait it out and take whoever gets here, or trade back up?

 

13.   Green Bay Packers – Peter Skoronski, Offensive Tackle, Northwestern  

Jaxon Smith-Njigba is reportedly very highly rated by the Green Bay decision makers but I was told by a plugged in Packers blogger that if he is there, Skoronski will be the pick.

 

14.   New England Patriots – Zay Flowers, Wide Receiver, Boston College

Which means Zay Flowers would be the first wide receiver off the board if the Patriots really do love him as much as the buzz suggests. He does have that quick twitch acceleration which is a need in their offense and he comes from a non-football powerhouse school in the north-east which is Bill’s MO. A lot of the pieces fit.

 

15.   New York Jets – Broderick Jones, Offensive Tackle, Georgia

If the Jets are able to snag Jones even after sliding back two spots as part of the Aaron Rodgers trade that is a massive win for them. With question marks of Mekhi Becton’s future and Duane Brown turning 38 before the season kicks off, tackle is a huge need.

 

16.   Washington Commanders – Emmanuel Forbes, Cornerback, Mississippi State

One of the most buzzy prospects in the final week or two of draft season has been Emmanuel Forbes. His slight frame is a concern but the more teams have dug into his tape the more the ball production has stood out. A number of teams now have him as CB3 and one of those is allegedly the Commanders who have a need at the position.

 

17.   Pittsburgh Steelers – Darnell Wright, Offensive Tackle, Tennessee

In version 2.0 I considered Wright to the Steelers at this spot. Their need at tackle is significant but I wondered whether they would see a right tackle only guy like Wright as providing sufficient value at the spot. The reporting I’ve heard since suggests they would. Therefore he is the pick.

 

18.   Detroit Lions – Calijah Kancey, Defensive Tackle, Pittsburgh

I don’t love this pick, he feels small to me for a Dan Campbell guy, but they are looking for an interior penetrator and I think Kancey will land somewhere in the first round, so maybe this is the most likely spot.

 

19.   Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Anton Harrison, Offensive Tackle, Oklahoma

The teens are where I expect the offensive tackles to fly off the board. The Buccs seem as though their preference is to shift all pro right tackle Tristan Wirfs to left tackle, which makes sense, and would allow Harrison to ease his way into the NFL on the right side. They have met with him twice in the pre-draft process.

 

20.   Seattle Seahawks – Lukas Van Ness, EDGE, Iowa

This pick is one of the hardest to predict in the entire round I think. I’ve had them going safety, I’ve had them going guard, but I wonder if they might spend back to back picks on the defensive front? This is the sort of range where Van Ness might come off the board and he can play inside or outside in Seattle’s scheme.

 

21.   Los Angeles Chargers – Dalton Kincaid, Tight End, Utah

This was the pick I didn’t make in version 2.0 and then most wished I had afterwards. The Chargers love big passing game targets and while I still think this is the first pick where Quinten Johnston is in-play, their depth at tight end is thinner. Kincaid would start as a rookie.

 

22.   Baltimore Ravens – Joey Porter Jnr, Cornerback, Penn State

Joey Porter Jnr, the man whose father was an all-pro linebacker for the hated Pittsburgh Steelers in the purple and black? I think this a classic case of the Ravens waiting for the draft to come to them and taking the best football player. Marcus Peters has departed and there is a hole opposite Marlon Humphrey.

 

23.   Minnesota Vikings – Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Wide Receiver, Ohio State

I think Minnesota would take any of the consensus top three corners if they fell to them but if they don’t maybe they’d wait on corner and consider an offensive weapon. The Vikings have met with all of the projected top receivers and are looking for a cost controlled running mate for Justin Jefferson as they prepare to make him the league’s highest paid receiver.

 

24.   Jacksonville Jaguars – Brian Branch, Safety, Alabama

The Jaguars will definitely attack their secondary in this draft. I have had them going corner here but I just wonder if the superior depth at corner could tempt them to wait on that spot. Conversely there is very little depth behind Brian Branch at safety and he is worthy of this selection.

 

25.   New York Giants – Deonte Banks, Cornerback, Maryland

I have been told it will definitely be a receiver or a corner for the Giants at #25 but that the front office have been “leaning towards a corner” in recent weeks. So while Quinten Johnston and Jordan Addison are definitely in play here I think Banks would be a serious consideration if he is there.

 

26.   Dallas Cowboys – Michael Mayer, Tight End, Note Dame

I had Kincaid here in version 2.0, but with the Utah standout already selected here I am leaning towards Mayer. I think it is an immediate need for the Cowboys and there is a bit of a young Jason Witten about this pick.

 

27.   Buffalo Bills – Jordan Addison, Wide Receiver, USC

I have had the Bills going receiver in all three versions. I think the alternatives are that they really like Anton Harrison or one of the defensive tackles. And if Addison is gone, that is the direction I’d seen them edging towards. However, they have met with Addison three times this spring. The interest is clear. Don’t rule out a small trade up if they think it is necessary to land him.

 

28.   Cincinnati Bengals – Brian Bresee, Defensive Tackle, Clemson

With both of the tight ends gone and five corners already selected the value that best matches up with a need for the Bengals is at defensive tackle. I think Bresee is going to sneak into the back of the first round somewhere.

 

29.   New Orleans Saints – Myles Murphy, EDGE, Clemson

The smoke seems to suggest that Murphy is going to slide towards the end of the first round. I’m not really sure why, but the Saints have met with him twice and they have a big edge need. His body type is similar to what they just lost in free agency from Marcus Davenport and Cam Jordan can’t go on forever!

 

30.   Philadelphia Eagles – Jahmyr Gibbs, Running Back, Alabama

The Eagles lost Miles Sanders to the Panthers in free agency and while they have dependable backup options such as Kenneth Gainwell, Boston Scott and Rashaad Penny I’m not sure any of those strike fear into opposing defenses. To maximise the RPO threat of Jalen Hurts I feel they need a dynamic runner and could use their second first round pick to secure one.

 

31.   Kansas City Chiefs – Will McDonald IV, EDGE, Iowa State

I think if there is a team likely to make a big jump up on draft night it might, for the second year running, be the Kansas City Chiefs. Offensive tackle would be their target if any of the top guys get into the 20s. If not I expect them to look for a Frank Clark replacement here. They have showed a lot of interest in McDonald who is the type of versatile player Steve Spagnuolo loves.

 

 

There we have it.... no Quinten Johnston, no Keion White and no Mazi Smith. I think those are the three guys I feel like have the best chance of landing in round 1 that are not in my 31. 

Very solid looking Mock. Well thought out. I think this year we see a lot of unexpected picks. 

 

I know we talked about him yesterday and you aren't as sold on him...But O'Cyrus Torrence just SCREAMS Detroit at 18 for me. Even more so if they manage a small trade back into the early to mid 20s. Talk about a guy with Dan Campbell DNA. They have a need at RG and at least there (as opposed to here in Buffalo) he is a great fit for their scheme. He was also one of their top 30 visits...brought in late last week just before visit time was over. Hmm.

 

Gibbs to Philly is a pretty scary thought as well. Great fit. All in all great work as usual. Mocking this year is no easy task. Hope your picks hit!

[GunnerBill]

14 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah I really like McDonald and have thought he might end up BPA at a premium position that is left at 27 at times recently.   But I have a hard time not slotting Addison above him if he is there due to age.    If McDonald were 21 with those traits it's a different looking projection.   He is one of the more interesting stories, IMO.

 

Agree totally with that.

[Process]

I would be ecstatic with Addison at 27. 

 

With a lot of teams needing a WR and it being a premium position I don't see any way he lasts. But if he gets to the early 20s I'd like to see a move similar to last year where we move up and grab him. I wouldn't give up more than 27th and a 4th though. 

Edited April 27, 2023 by Process

[Dr. Who]

5 minutes ago, Process said:

I would be ecstatic with Addison at 27. 

I'm too old to risk ecstatic. I'll go with very happy.

[GunnerBill]

14 minutes ago, Process said:

I would be ecstatic with Addison at 27. 

 

With a lot of teams needing a WR and it being a premium position I don't see any way he lasts. But if he gets to the early 20s I'd like to see a move similar to last year where we move up and grab him. I wouldn't give up more than 27th and a 4th though. 

 

I think the difference is fans and the talking heads are higher on the WRs than the teams. The more people talk to teams about the receivers the more you are seeing them "slide" on draft boards. 

[Process]

9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think the difference is fans and the talking heads are higher on the WRs than the teams. The more people talk to teams about the receivers the more you are seeing them "slide" on draft boards. 

Yea for sure, it's a really weak WR class at the top. Again though it seems WRs tend to go earlier than they should a lot of times because it being such a premium position. Hard to imagine the best or second best WR in the class going 27 but id love to see it.

 

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, Process said:

Yea for sure, it's a really weak WR class at the top. Again though it seems WRs tend to go earlier than they should a lot of times because it being such a premium position. Hard to imagine the best or second best WR in the class going 27 but id love to see it.

 

 

2019 only two went round one and Marquise Brown was the first at #25. Admittedly that was a stronger class in other positions that helped knock guys down. 

[Process]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

2019 only two went round one and Marquise Brown was the first at #25. Admittedly that was a stronger class in other positions that helped knock guys down. 

Interesting, and good point. Yeah I think this being a weak class overall could give teams additional incentive to reach on one of the top receivers.

 

Should be a fun night. Can't remember a draft with this much uncertainty. 

Edited April 27, 2023 by Process

[Straight Hucklebuck]

I won't be excited about Addison. 

 

When I watch him, there is no explosion there. 

 

When Beane talks about creating mismatches on the field, do I get that with Addison? 

 

The hope seems to be his testing is similar to Stefon Diggs, and possibly his play style. 

 

 

Edited April 27, 2023 by Straight Hucklebuck

[Alphadawg7]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

 

27.   Buffalo Bills – Jordan Addison, Wide Receiver, USC

I have had the Bills going receiver in all three versions. I think the alternatives are that they really like Anton Harrison or one of the defensive tackles. And if Addison is gone, that is the direction I’d seen them edging towards. However, they have met with Addison three times this spring. The interest is clear. Don’t rule out a small trade up if they think it is necessary to land him. 

Typo here, you got Anton as a defensive tackle instead of OT.

 

I think the plan is to get Addison and if they don’t feel they can, that is when pulling trigger on Hopkins becomes a higher chance of happening IMHO.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Typo here, you got Anton as a defensive tackle instead of OT.

 

I think the plan is to get Addison and if they don’t feel they can, that is when pulling trigger on Hopkins becomes a higher chance of happening IMHO.

 

No, Harrison OR one of the defensive tackles. Although I should remove Harrison really because I have him gone already. 

[Alphadawg7]

10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

No, Harrison OR one of the defensive tackles. Although I should remove Harrison really because I have him gone already. 

Oh sorry, read on my phone without glasses hahaha, getting old sucks haha.  Thought it said or one of the other other defensive tackles.  My bad

Edited April 27, 2023 by Alphadawg7

[dave mcbride]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I won't be excited about Addison. 

 

When I watch him, there is no explosion there. 

 

When Beane talks about creating mismatches on the field, do I get that with Addison? 

 

The hope seems to be his testing is similar to Stefon Diggs, and possibly his play style. 

 

 

I think Addison's short area footwork is incredible and he's also the best route runner in the draft. I'd love for him to be a Bill, but I doubt he lasts. I hope I'm wrong!

[gonzo1105]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

No, Harrison OR one of the defensive tackles. Although I should remove Harrison really because I have him gone already. 

I have a curious question, do you do a full 7 rounder still like in the old days when it was Saturday and Sunday only? Or do you do one round then tomorrow reassess and do 2-3 than 4-7?

 

I loved doing the old school 7 rounders but it doesn’t make any sense to do now? If you did do it , what is the latest pick you’ve nailed? 
 

I got Anthony Hill TE NC State correct at 122 to the Texans. I feel like I got one 3-4 years ago in the 150 range but can’t remember who