Josh = Phil Rivers (just messenger)

[Buffalo Ballin]

Enjoy the current time.

 

Any of these QBs can go down in a shredded knee or multiple CTE, which is a career ender. The future is always unknown.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said:

Joe Burrow got the ball with 2 minutes needing a FG to go to the Superbowl. The Bengals punted.

 

 Which is surprising seeing how that's the one thing he's been great at in the playoffs, leading his offense on a fg drive.

 

 

[Italian Bills]

7 minutes ago, Airseven said:

When this guy starts a thread, he commits. Credit for that. But I like the Van Ness Monster one better.

Thanks buddy.

 

I asked mods not to merge the one i just created, but unfortunately they did.

 

Can maybe them DIS-merge it ? 😄

 

Pleaseeeee 

 

[somnus00]

Mahomes has a top 3 all-time TE, a good o-line, and probably the most QB friendly offensive mind in the history of the NFL.

 

Burrow has Chase, Higgins, Mixon, Hurst, and Boyd. Stacked offense.

 

Rivers has 2 HOFers in Gates and Tomlinson.

 

Allen has Diggs.

Edited February 4, 2023 by somnus00

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

11 hours ago, Einstein said:

I don’t see Allen as an after thought at all. He was many reporters 1st overall QB entering the season. He was the MVP favorite. We got numerous prime time games because of him. He has a national commercial (gillette). He is playing at Pebble Beach and was in the celebrity golf match with Brady, Rodgers and Mahomes last season.

Mvp favorite not mvp… see the pattern 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

11 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Burrow actually kinda sucks in the playoffs. His stats impress no one.

See manning reference 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

12 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Lmao just stop

 

in 15 years burrow will be wishing to have Allen’s success 

 

don’t doubt the kid from firebaugh 

👏❤️👊

[Low Positive]

Ever since the clock showed zero in Buffalo two weeks ago, this board has been a race to the bottom to see who can be the most dramatically miserable.  

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

20 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Mvp favorite not mvp… see the pattern 

 

When was Rivers ever a serious MVP candidate? Allen has consistently been a top 3 QB and #1 MVP candidate for large stretches of the year three years running. I'm not sure Rivers can claim more than one season as such in his long career. All it takes to "beat out" Burrow AND Rivers at this point is one super bowl ring. Then he has also "beat out" Marino and tied Rodgers. 

[May Day 10]

I was spoke to a lot of football fans in the past few months and they say mahomes is like Otto Graham, Allen is Bobby Layne, burrow ya tittle, and Herbert norm van brocklin

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Ever since the clock showed zero in Buffalo two weeks ago, this board has been a race to the bottom to see who can be the most dramatically miserable.  

 

 Like a bunch of kicking & screaming kids who didn't get ice cream. But....but..MOMMY!!! Crying all the way in their race to the bottom. 

 

 

 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

17 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

See manning reference 

 

That's a terrible reference because at this point Mahomes is both Brady AND Manning. Manning was always the guy that had the best regular season stats and many times the #1 seed. That has also been Mahomes most years. Mahomes has just been much better at getting to the Super Bowl thus far. 

 

Both Allen and Burrow are the same tier QB's right now. They both appear to be equal rivals to Mahomes. 

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, TampaBillsJunkie said:

 

Last year, it was Allen and Mahomes. This year it's Burrow and Mahomes and for obvious reasons.

 

Where did they announce this? Guess I missed it.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

14 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

When was Rivers ever a serious MVP candidate? Allen has consistently been a top 3 QB and #1 MVP candidate for large stretches of the year three years running. I'm not sure Rivers can claim more than one season as such in his long career. All it takes to "beat out" Burrow AND Rivers at this point is one super bowl ring. Then he has also "beat out" Marino and tied Rodgers. 

2008 2009 2010

 

Josh only 2020 votes so far 

Edited February 4, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I think what it is for me is :

 

Mahomes is the best QB in the league. I have never seen a guy pass like Mahomes. He somehow almost never makes a bad throw it’s inconceivable. The guy is the closest thing to Brady that you are going to get when it’s all over and it’s amazing how easy he makes it look.

 

Allen is the best player in the league. Nobody can do what Allen can do. The combination of throwing and rushing with Allen is borderline unstoppable when it on. There have been good QBs that can move but not like this. Allen is not only fast but he is a powerful runner. He also is insanely tough and also an excellent passer. Accurate, aggressive and possibly the best arm in the league. Cam Newtons legs with John Elways arm. Something you just don’t see. There’s no player in the league Id want more then Josh.

 

I’m totally good with expectations going down here nationally. I actually think it’s taken a lot of the fun out of football for me. You almost fast forward mentally through the regular season now because you are just assuming you will be there. I don’t like that feeling. It used to happen a lot for me with the Rangers. It’s almost like you can’t do anything well. It’s either you do what you are supposed to do, or you let down. I want to enjoy the ride because one day this will end. A 13 win season shouldn’t feel like we left a few out there. It should feel good. And these ridiculous expectations ruined any joy you get from the ride here. We need to reinvent the way we play on both offense and defense or this thing is always going to end the same. Wether people want to realize it or not, the Chiefs and Bengals have good defenses. I don’t care what these advanced statistical nerd sites keep saying about our defense compared to theirs….our defense is terrible. That’s why we keep losing in the playoffs. You don’t need to be told who is good by hidden dvoa numbers. Watch the games. The chiefs and bengals make stops against good physical teams and good QBs. Our DC was horrible in Minnesota and never once gets to or slows down anyone that plays physical. Every single accurate QB that’s willing to take the simple throw, has all day to carve is up on 3rd down. When we aren’t forcing turnovers, we aren’t making stops and that’s not sustainable. This is the actual truth and the issue with this team. That’s why they keep making it further then us.

Edited February 4, 2023 by Brianmoorman4jesus

[Seventeen]

12 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Allen is more Favre to me. 

 

In some respects they're not totally wrong. 

 

Mahomes has proven to be the Michael Jordan of this era. He is a mega-star. 

 

Burrow is the processor, the high football IQ, throw to the open man. 

 

If you had put Mahomes on the same teams/coaches Josh has had, Mahomes would also be 0-for-however many.

[finn]

12 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. 
 

Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. 
 

Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning….

 

so far it all holds up. 
 

sucks we could’ve had that guy 

This post won't age well. 

[Thurman#1]

12 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. 
 

Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. 
 

Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning….

 

so far it all holds up. 
 

sucks we could’ve had that guy 

 

 

Rivers was terrific. Screwed by being on teams that weren't good enough.

 

Allen is quite a bit better.

 

Whoever you spoke with didn't get it. Not to mention that they were suffering with severe recency bias.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

32 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

2008 2009 2010

 

Josh only 2020 votes so 

 

 Rivers received 2 votes in 2008 & 2 in 2009. The one year you provided that gets me is 2010, he didn't receive any votes, so I'm not sure why you listed it? Brady was the unanimous choice that year, receiving all 50 votes. Imo you can't be a serious contender without a single vote to your credit. Rivers never finished higher than 3rd in the mvp race and Josh has already equaled his mvp vote total for his career. 

 

I see your bad takes on Josh and the other top qbs continue. So far you have 1 person that agrees with you, a known troll, that should tell you enough. 

 

 

[PatsFanNH]

13 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I’ve spoken with numerous fans of football, many teams…. 
 

Common consensus is Allen is an afterthought. Somewhere between Rivers and Newton. 
 

Mahommes is new Brady, Burrow is new Manning….

 

so far it all holds up. 
 

sucks we could’ve had that guy 

Lol first it’s way way to early to determine this!  As for Allen his issue right now is the team has yet to make it so they can win even on a bad day for him.  Before anyone says “no team wins when their QB isn’t good” that’s not true the Colts won a SB with Manning playing less than awesome! He made key plays but had a meh game for him.. The Bills need to be able to do that in ANY game for Allen. If for no other reason to get the pressure off the guy a bit.