L Ron Burgundy Posted March 27 Posted March 27 13 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2024/03/26/california-minimum-wage-jobs/73107149007/ Lol, what did they think would happen? I'm sure Biden will say how he helped increase min wages. Another fake win for the libs Don't compare California with the rest of the country. They are very much unique.
Pokebball Posted March 27 Posted March 27 27 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Don't compare California with the rest of the country. They are very much unique. New York is proving to be very much unique 2
K D Posted March 27 Posted March 27 30 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Don't compare California with the rest of the country. They are very much unique. How so? Are you saying that if they raise the min wage elsewhere that it won't result in layoffs? I'm a business owner and I can ensure you that it will. If you are forced to pay people X amount of money they you will just hire less of those people and make them work harder 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted March 27 Posted March 27 23 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: How so? Are you saying that if they raise the min wage elsewhere that it won't result in layoffs? I'm a business owner and I can ensure you that it will. If you are forced to pay people X amount of money they you will just hire less of those people and make them work harder I mean the vast majority of liberals don't look at Cali as some pinnacle of liberalism. Many of us think they're nuts too. Cali is their own unique thing. 1
Pokebball Posted March 27 Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I mean the vast majority of liberals don't look at Cali as some pinnacle of liberalism. Many of us think they're nuts too. Cali is their own unique thing. What do you think is nuts about CA liberalism? Curious? In other words, explain for me the difference between liberalism of the majority and CA's liberalism? 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted March 27 Posted March 27 7 minutes ago, Pokebball said: What do you think is nuts about CA liberalism? Curious? In other words, explain for me the difference between liberalism of the majority and CA's liberalism? I'm obviously referring to diggz post about min wage..... Also some of their crime reform, high taxes, talk of reparations. That's off the top of my head. Are you surprised? Most of us are center left.
Pokebball Posted March 27 Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I'm obviously referring to diggz post about min wage..... Also some of their crime reform, high taxes, talk of reparations. That's off the top of my head. Are you surprised? Most of us are center left. Very surprised but I'll take you for your word. Most liberals seem to be pretty solid liberals; even those that post here
L Ron Burgundy Posted March 27 Posted March 27 44 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Very surprised but I'll take you for your word. Most liberals seem to be pretty solid liberals; even those that post here I haven't seen much here that makes me think anyone on the forum is far left. Have you? I mean, I see some trolling and some Hyperbole. Ok a lot of Hyperbole from the left.
Pokebball Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I haven't seen much here that makes me think anyone on the forum is far left. Have you? I mean, I see some trolling and some Hyperbole. Ok a lot of Hyperbole from the left. Not far left, but certainly not middle left. From my perch the right here seems to be more moderate to me. In the eye of the beholder perhaps Edited March 27 by Pokebball 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 3 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I mean the vast majority of liberals don't look at Cali as some pinnacle of liberalism. Many of us think they're nuts too. Cali is their own unique thing. Agree. Virginia is pretty centrist right now. I'd be very happy if it was reliably blue for Governor and President and still centrist. That's about where I am on the spectrum. Edited March 27 by Joe Ferguson forever 2
L Ron Burgundy Posted March 27 Posted March 27 23 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Not far left, but certainly not middle left. From my perch the right here seems to be more moderate to me. In the eye of the beholder perhaps Fair enough.
K D Posted March 28 Posted March 28 7 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I mean the vast majority of liberals don't look at Cali as some pinnacle of liberalism. Many of us think they're nuts too. Cali is their own unique thing. I've been told their Governor is next in line for the presidency. Will you vote against him? 1
K D Posted March 28 Posted March 28 4 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Agree. Virginia is pretty centrist right now. I'd be very happy if it was reliably blue for Governor and President and still centrist. That's about where I am on the spectrum. Things have shifted so much in the past 5-6 years that if you were truly a centrist then by now you would be considered alt right. -personal freedom -marry whoever you want -don't judge anyone by the color of their skin -no wars -anti establishment Me in 2008 = Center left Me today = looney tunes alt right white supremacist terrorist Nothing about my views changed, so what happened? 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: I've been told their Governor is next in line for the presidency. Will you vote against him? I would vote for a shined up turd over your guy yeah. Blue no matter who until hes gone. Also, he wouldn't push Cali type bs on the country, no chance. He understands the rest of the country is different. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 28 Posted March 28 7 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Things have shifted so much in the past 5-6 years that if you were truly a centrist then by now you would be considered alt right. -personal freedom -marry whoever you want -don't judge anyone by the color of their skin -no wars -anti establishment Me in 2008 = Center left Me today = looney tunes alt right white supremacist terrorist Nothing about my views changed, so what happened? anti establishment isn't left center in any universe.
K D Posted March 28 Posted March 28 27 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: anti establishment isn't left center in any universe. It currently makes me a Proud Boy apparently. Because I don't trust the people in power and the non-stop corruption in Washington, which is how every American should feel. Every single politician is a multimilionaire while making a 150k per year salary. How are they not in jail? They work for us, not the other way around. "I don't work for you" - Joe Biden
Tiberius Posted March 28 Posted March 28 32 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: It currently makes me a Proud Boy apparently. Because I don't trust the people in power and the non-stop corruption in Washington, which is how every American should feel. Every single politician is a multimilionaire while making a 150k per year salary. How are they not in jail? They work for us, not the other way around. "I don't work for you" - Joe Biden But you want uber corrupt trump back? 🤫
K D Posted March 28 Posted March 28 41 minutes ago, Tiberius said: But you want uber corrupt trump back? 🤫 Nope but he's the only one going against the socialists that has a chance to win and policy wise I'm very much aligned with his views. He will stop the illegal immigration and deport the criminals who snuck in, he will end all wars, he will put America first and fix the economy and crazy spending. And then in 4 years get someone who is not a nut job on either side 1 1
Tiberius Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said: Nope but he's the only one going against the socialists that has a chance to win and policy wise I'm very much aligned with his views. He will stop the illegal immigration and deport the criminals who snuck in, he will end all wars, he will put America first and fix the economy and crazy spending. And then in 4 years get someone who is not a nut job on either side So he will destroy the economy, then. That's what you want? Illegals are a huge and very important part of our economy, and they make their own lives better, too. Why would you want these people treated like animals and run out of our country where they are making us stronger, more prosperous and diverse?
K D Posted March 28 Posted March 28 We also need to shut down CIA. That was a war time creation and it was never meant to exist during peace times. I'm against shadow government and non-elected officials having any power whatsoever. 2 1
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