Dan Orlovsky All-Time QB list

[Donuts and Doritos]

Um, Orlovsky stepped out the back of an end zone for a safety, so I take what he says w/ a wee bit of salt.

 

https://youtu.be/J0OkR986LL4

 

Edited February 3, 2023 by Donuts and Doritos

[dave mcbride]

5 hours ago, Draconator said:

Brady was a product of a system. He also lost Superbowls. Montana never lost a Superbowl. Montana should be #1. 

Losing SBs is way more impressive than not reaching them. 7-3 in 10 games is way more impressive than both 7-0 and especially 4-0.

[boyst]

47 minutes ago, StHustle said:

a lot of people suffering from recency bias i see

No bias. Just opinion. I'd rather take a guy who was a part of successful championship teams than a guy whose accolades are of personal merit. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

5 hours ago, StHustle said:

Left Rodgers off??? Dan Marino was not better than Aaron Rodgers…smh

 

They played in a different era so hard to compare.  What would be interesting to compare QB against entire league averages.  My gut tells me Marino would be further above average than Rodgers.  He was great in a non passing time frame.

 

Montana was fabulous in SB's.  Other times good, but not that amazing.

 

No way Mahomes should be on the list at this point in career.

[K D]

31 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Mahomes is already a Hall of Famer, 6 years into his career.  How many QBs in history can you say that about?  Certainly not 10.  

Doesn't matter, he doesn't have the career of those guys...yet. Bo Jackson might have been a top 5 RB but we'll never know because he shattered his hip. Mahomes is surely on the path to greatness but not there yet 

[PatsFanNH]

6 hours ago, LeviF said:

John Elway is kind of nuts but if he had been replaced by Montana there’s not a lot to complain about. 

Elway is Maybe 3, Mahomes shouldn’t be there. YET. 
 

Brady

Montana

P Manning

Elway

Marino

 

 

[Mc1320]

Orlovsky is a fail clown - just pull up the video of him running 5 yards deep past the end line in the end zone on one of the 12 NFL snaps he took in his career.

[2003Contenders]

These lists are so subjective. Do you base it on physical talent? Accolades? Championships? Blazing trails? A combination?

 

It is also very difficult judging guys across different eras -- and different offensive schemes. Some (Bradshaw, Starr) were blessed with surrounding talent.  Others... not so much.

 

Guys like Otto Graham (who won even more championships than Brady) and Johnny Unitas (who more or less defined the modern passing game) deserve to be considered.

 

While Dan Marino may have been the greatest PASSER who ever lived, I would not put him on a top 5 list. When it comes to Marino, I always thought of him in the same light that Jimmy Johnson once said when comparing Barry Sanders to E. Smith. He said that Barry may have been the greatest RUNNER because he was so dynamic with the ball in his hand. However, he said that Smith was the better RUNNING BACK because in addition to being a great runner, he was also great in pass protection, a quality receiver out of the backfield, and he knew when to lower his shoulder to get the tough few yards. In that vein I say Marino was arguably the greatest PASSER -- but his poor ball-handling skills, lack of mobility, and lack of post-season success places him further down the list as a great QUARTERBACK.

 

I also could never place Drew Brees on a list like this, although he posted insane numbers in his career. Yes, he was one of the most accurate QBs in NFL history, but he also thrived in good weather and dome conditions. I remember back in his 2nd (I believe) year in the league, the Chargers played us in Buffalo. He absolutely could NOT throw the ball in those conditions -- I am talking Chad Pennington level noodle-arm. The Chargers ending up benching him for Flutie in that game.

 

My top four would be (in no particular order)

 

J. Elway

J. Montana

P. Manning

T. Brady

 

Then it gets really difficult for me to figure out the 5th. I am leaning toward Unitas.

 

[Alphadawg7]

Top 5:

 

1.  Brady

2. Montana

3. Mahomes (yes he is already that good)

4. Elway

5. Manning

[PrimeTime101]

7 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Flame away!!

 

https://thespun.com/.amp/more/top-stories/espn-analysts-top-5-quarterbacks-ever-list-is-going-viral

this dude gets paid for clicks. Montana not on the list is an insult. Mahomes just half way through his career is an insult. 

[ArtVandalay]

8 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Flame away!!

 

https://thespun.com/.amp/more/top-stories/espn-analysts-top-5-quarterbacks-ever-list-is-going-viral

Replace Elway with Flutie and we are good. 

[Warriorspikes51]

1. Brady
2. Montana
3. Manning
4. Marino
5. Elway
6. Favre
7. Brees

 

Edited February 3, 2023 by Warriorspikes51

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

6 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

No love for Bart Starr, Otto Graham, Johnny U, etc.?

Otto Graham…but his list is “what have you done for me lately”.

[First Round Bust]

top 3 for dog damn sure:  Brady, Montana, P Manning...

 

who be the next two to ound out the top 5 ?  Marino ?  all those pass stats during the run-the-ball era...no rings...what about Favre or Brees with one each and big-time pass records ?  Elway top 10...maybe not 5.

 

fyi: below...recency bias says Bradshaw not top 5 maybe not 10 ?  Swann and Stallworth his WRs are in the HoF..no way to Aikman or Ben..could Eli be top 10 ?

 

QBs with more than 1 super bowl win:

Tom Brady – 7.

Joe Montana – 4.

Terry Bradshaw – 4.

Troy Aikman – 3.

Eli Manning – 2.

Peyton Manning – 2.

Ben Roethlisberger – 2.

John Elway – 2.

[Mikie2times]

Dan Orvlosky used to be somebody I enjoyed watching. He was knowledgeable and covered the game more intellectually. The more he was around Stephen A, the more he became Skip Bayless.   

[frostbitmic]

Where is Orlovsky on this list ?

[Chaos]

12 hours ago, Draconator said:

Brady was a product of a system. He also lost Superbowls. Montana never lost a Superbowl. Montana should be #1. 

Did he take the system to Tampa Bay?

[SoCal Deek]

6 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

Elway is Maybe 3, Mahomes shouldn’t be there. YET. 
 

Brady

Montana

P Manning

Elway

Marino

 

 

This list looks about right to me. 

[Chicken Boo]

6 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

Doesn't matter, he doesn't have the career of those guys...yet. Bo Jackson might have been a top 5 RB but we'll never know because he shattered his hip. Mahomes is surely on the path to greatness but not there yet 

 

I get the analogy, but Bo never had a 1,000 yard season.  Mahomes is already a Super Bowl champ, has multiple appearances and is about to be a 2-time league MVP.

 

He has eclipsed the careers of many in a much shorter span.  It won't be held against him, particularly if wins his 2nd ring next weekend.  

Edited February 4, 2023 by Chicken Boo

[AuntieEm]

10 hours ago, LeviF said:

 

Based on current trajectory the only question re: Mahomes is whether he will win enough rings to make the GOAT debate interesting.

 

   And Josh Allen and the Bills plan to ruin his ring collecting by grabbing a number of rings for themselves.

 

 

Edited February 4, 2023 by AuntieEm