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On 2/4/2023 at 11:28 PM, B-Man said:

Shut up!

 

China Expresses 'Strong Discontent' Over Balloon Shootdown, 'Retains the Right to Respond Further'

By Bob Hoge

 

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https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2023/02/04/china-expresses-strong-discontent-over-balloon-shootdown-retains-the-right-to-respond-further-n698875

 

 

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On 2/5/2023 at 12:34 PM, sherpa said:

Evidently, there was no warhead on the Sidewinder that hit it, in order to limit payload damage.

So...Simply an arrow through the thing.

Wouldn't there have been a cheaper way to do it?  Even unarmed those would cost a bit no?

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3 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Wouldn't there have been a cheaper way to do it?  Even unarmed those would cost a bit no?

 

I suppose there would be a cheaper way using the gun, but that would probably result in a much longer and unpredictable drift.

 

In addition, F-22's fly every day, so no additional expense there, and US Navy and Air Force planes shoot a small number of non warhead equipped Sidewinders and carious other missiles every year to assure satisfactory inventory, so it's one less practice shot to do.

 

I wacked a drone with one during my days. Really fun. For various reasons I won't confess, the missile hit the full size drone and splashed it.

The ground operator of the drone was supposed to cut the engine to remove the heat signature as soon as the missile came off the rail, but my call was "late" so he was late, and even the non warhead AIM 9 bulls-eyed the thing.

A good day for me.

 

Minor edit..

By the way, the AIM 9X, which was used in both cases, does not rely on heat signature for guidance. It uses light contrast. The heat signature of a balloon question has been brought up on various web stories by authors who don't know that.

 

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Object over Northern Canada shot down, Trudeau says

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau ordered the downing of a high altitude object over Canadian airspace on Saturday, he said in a tweet.

 

“I ordered the take down of an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace. @NORADCommand shot down the object over the Yukon. Canadian and U.S. aircraft were scrambled, and a U.S. F-22 successfully fired at the object,” Trudeau said.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/11/politics/norad-additional-object-northern-canada/index.html

 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/norad-confirms-high-altitude-airborne-object-flying-over-northern-canada

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Next object will be a large drone....Americas focus goes to China, maybe a major invasion of airspace by a plane or two, and Russia uses cover to use very powerful weapons against Ukraine.

Remember when Biden, Trudeau etc refused to go to Olympics and the two bros sat together, Putin was only big guy with the Chinese leaders...

Taiwan issue is coming, there is a plan....IMHO.

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1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:

Next object will be a large drone....Americas focus goes to China, maybe a major invasion of airspace by a plane or two, and Russia uses cover to use very powerful weapons against Ukraine.

Remember when Biden, Trudeau etc refused to go to Olympics and the two bros sat together, Putin was only big guy with the Chinese leaders...

Taiwan issue is coming, there is a plan....IMHO.


 

The plan would be take out America before moving on Taiwan.  
 

The world being in their pockets and under their thumb and the loss of love of freedom and actual liberty at home is going to make this very ugly.  

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1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:


 

The plan would be take out America before moving on Taiwan.  
 

The world being in their pockets and under their thumb and the loss of love of freedom and actual liberty at home is going to make this very ugly.  

Not sure if you are serious or not, but the mutual relationship between the 2 certainly points to a major problem in the not to distant future. 

I believe both have the willingness for pre-emptive strike. This is not feeling like the chess games of the 60s and 70s. IMHO

 

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14 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

 


wtf is going on? Can one of the “it’s ok for our adversaries to fly balloons over the country from coast to coast” crowd weigh in here? There were several of you. Hopefully one of you will step up. 

 

I don't know what "decommissioned" means, but there is a report of another radar hit over Lake Huron that didn't amount to much.

Posted
17 hours ago, Big Blitz said:


 

The plan would be take out America before moving on Taiwan.  
 

The world being in their pockets and under their thumb and the loss of love of freedom and actual liberty at home is going to make this very ugly.  

 

China relies way too much on the rest of the world to survive anything of the sort.  They would have hundreds of millions of people starve within a year without food imports, a lot of which come from the US.  

 

Also, please, what freedoms and liberties have you lost here?

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4 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

China relies way too much on the rest of the world to survive anything of the sort.  They would have hundreds of millions of people starve within a year without food imports, a lot of which come from the US.  

 

Also, please, what freedoms and liberties have you lost here?


 

Via the government or thru the private sector with the support of the government?  
 

Loss of freedoms doesn’t mean we’re put in labor camps.  
 

Not yet anyway.  


 

But you will bake that cake.  
 

You will accept the LGBTQJRXOPA agenda in your schools and the parents can stfu

 

You will get vaccinated or be fired.  
 

You don’t need an assault rifle (we don’t know what that means but you don’t need it
 

 

 

Do I really need to go on?  

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It will be interesting to learn who is responsible for these past two incursions.

It it is determined that China is responsible for all three, it is time to respond in an incremental fashion.

We'll see.

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