chef4131 Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Chiefs again playing in the SB is a credit to their organization besides having Mahommes, the Chiefs certainly received great value from their 2022 draft class. Having rookie production certainly helps balance paying high salaries to top talented players #Chiefs 2022 draft 1st rd T McDuffie - starter 1st rd G. Karlaftis - starter 2nd rd B Cook - nickel SAF 2nd rd S Moore - 4th/5th WR & PR 4th rd J Williams - starter 7th rd J Watson - starter 7th rd I Pacheco - starter 12 selections currently in ‘23 draft 6 1 1 Quote
rm -rf /* Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) It's much easier to draft when you don't have to draft nice guys. Edited January 31, 2023 by rm -rf /* 7 1 4 10 3 3 Quote
K D Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Their worst pick was Sky Moore and I thought he would have been their best prior to the season. He might still find his place in the offense and he had that great punt return to set up their final score I think 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Had a nice draft. Not sure there is an elite star in there yet but they got good players who had immediate impact. They have outdrafted us the last 3 years. Edited January 31, 2023 by GunnerBill 2 6 Quote
Billsflyer12 Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Chiefs 20 of last 22 picks have contributed. 1 Quote
Zerovoltz Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 If KC hadn't nailed the 22 draft, we wouldn't be in the SB. This was supposed to be a reset year. Alot of KC twitter and talking heads are clammoring right now about some of the preseason predictions of KC missing playoffs or barely making wild card, not winning division...but if we (KC fans) are being honest, those people weren't just basing that on nothing. KC traded Tyreek Hill Lost CB Charvarious Ward in FA (started all year for SF, played very well) Lost S Tyrann Mathieu (was making too many business decisions his last year, but still good) Lodt DT Jarran Reed (starter, didn't live up to expectations in KC anyhow) Lost EDGE Melvin Ingram Lost MLB Anthony Hitchens (I say lost here, but he sucked, but was the starter at MLB) Lost RB Darrell Williams (was teams leading rusher in '21 and led in Rushing TD with 6) Lost CB Mike Hughes (started 6 games) Lost S Dan Sorenson (another who I say lost, but was glad to see go) Lost WR Byron Pringle (3rd on team with 5 TD catches 5th in recptons with 42) Everyone talks about losing Tyreek but KC churned the roster A LOT. It's understandable to think a team losing this much starting experience and production, would struggle. It's also notable KC nailed the draft in 21 also. Traded the 1 for Orlando Brown (who isn't that good, but he's better than what KC had heading into 2021, wich was nothing at all at OT) 2nd Creed Humphrey - All Pro Center 6th Trey Smith - Starting guard 2nd NIck Bolton - Starting LB (and is good) 5th Noah Gray - solid contributor at TE KC also got 2 key starters from 2020 - 2nd LB Willie Gay 4th CB LaJarious Snead 10 high quality, CHEAP, starters from the last 3 drafts, but the 2022 draft is the hallmark. On top of this, KC did NOT restructure Mahomes this year to kick money down the road, they ate the entire 36 mil cap, which only helps later on. That's how you stay on top when your QB cap hits start getting big. KC's FA signings have been decent also. I'm not bragging. I am posting this to demonstrate that the Bills are going to need to do better drafting as Allens cap hits now start to take up a big chunk. 6 8 2 1 Quote
GolfandBills Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 53 minutes ago, rm -rf /* said: It's much easier to draft when you don't have to draft nice guys. Humble and hungry 2 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) I really wanted McDuffie in the first round. He is just so good. I know the short arm thing, but what he lacked in arm length he makes up with some real savvy. He made a couple of mistakes this weekend, but he is a good one. Ofcourse, they jumped up in front of us through a trade with New England to grab him. I wonder if teh Bills had him higher than Elam or not, but he would have been a really good pick up. Getting George Karlaftis is just another example of teams over drafting measurables and drafting for need and letting good talent fall to teams in the late first. It happens every year and KC is fortunate in that. You think the Texans or Chargers might like to have Karlaftis over the guards they drafted in the mid first? Heed this warning when you guys are clamoring to reach on a guard or RT in the first. Don't do it. Edited January 31, 2023 by MrEpsYtown 1 Quote
Zerovoltz Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: I really wanted McDuffie in the first round. He is just so good. I know the short arm thing, but what he lacked in arm length he makes up with some real savvy. He made a couple of mistakes this weekend, but he is a good one. Ofcourse, they jumped up in front of us through a trade with New England to grab him. I wonder if teh Bills had him higher than Elam or not, but he would have been a really good pick up. Getting George Karlaftis is just another example of teams over drafting measurables and drafting for need and letting good talent fall to teams in the late first. It happens every year and KC is fortunate in that. You think the Texans or Chargers might like to have Karlaftis over the guards they drafted in the mid first? Heed this warning when you guys are clamoring to reach on a guard or RT in the first. Don't do it. There is a really good thread here somewhere debating that. There is video of the Bills war room when KC trades up and takes McDuffie. They all look very unhappy and even comment that KC 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: There is a really good thread here somewhere debating that. There is video of the Bills war room when KC trades up and takes McDuffie. They all look very unhappy and even comment that KC Oh man! Yep that sucks. He was tailor made for their scheme. Sometimes I feel like they get a little caught with their pants down and aren't ready to pick. Be aggressive and go get your guy. It felt a little like the Elam pick was a panic pick. The AJ Epenesa pick felt like that as well. Oh well. Quote
BarleyNY Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said: There is a really good thread here somewhere debating that. There is video of the Bills war room when KC trades up and takes McDuffie. They all look very unhappy and even comment that KC Everyone knew the Bills painted themselves into a corner and had to draft a CB in the first. It was also obvious that they’d need to trade up at least a little bit to make sure they didn’t get jumped for their guy. They did that, but only two picks. I can’t say for sure that Beane had McDuffie ranked ahead of Elam, but I am sure they should have. KC made the right move there obviously. 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Oh man! Yep that sucks. He was tailor made for their scheme. Sometimes I feel like they get a little caught with their pants down and aren't ready to pick. Be aggressive and go get your guy. It felt a little like the Elam pick was a panic pick. The AJ Epenesa pick felt like that as well. Oh well. The thing is, the Patriots were not going to help the Bills. That wasn’t happening. But I am pretty sure that the Bills wanted McDuffie. Edited January 31, 2023 by dave mcbride Quote
CapeBreton Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Isn't this the team that drafted Clyde Edwards-Helaire in the first round? 1 Quote
Awwufelloff Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 I think everyone here wanted Mcduffie over Elam and rightfully so. I saw some glimpses of greatness from Elam at times so excited for him next yr. Quote
Zerovoltz Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: Isn't this the team that drafted Clyde Edwards-Helaire in the first round? Yes, big mistake in 2020. Tee Higgins was very next pick. 2 1 Quote
Airseven Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 He’s no Bernard mind you, but I think Chanal will be a player too. 1 3 Quote
LabattBlue Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Zerovoltz said: I'm not bragging. I am posting this to demonstrate that the Bills are going to need to do better drafting as Allens cap hits now start to take up a big chunk. Great. Hope Brandon Beane is absorbing your pearls of wisdom. Quote
schoolhouserock Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, BarleyNY said: Everyone knew the Bills painted themselves into a corner and had to draft a CB in the first. It was also obvious that they’d need to trade up at least a little bit to make sure they didn’t get jumped for their guy. They did that, but only two picks. I can’t say for sure that Beane had McDuffie ranked ahead of Elam, but I am sure they should have. KC made the right move there obviously. “Painted themselves into a corner” LOL… good way to describe the first round of the ‘22 Draft. Quote
Zerovoltz Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Great. Hope Brandon Beane is absorbing your pearls of wisdom. Good morning to you to. I didn't start the topic, just adding some information in here in the spirit of what the OP is saying. 1 1 Quote
wppete Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 Our draft apart from some production from Cook and Elam was awful AGAIN! we haven’t had a good draft since Josh’s Allen draft. 1 Quote
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