arcadia bob Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 I believe that the current coaching staff has done all the can with the BILLS team. Just can't see the players buying into the process anymore, this is going to be the team's biggest problem next year, not the draft,free agents ect.I would offer the Saints our 1 and next year's #2 to get it done. Payton may not be the best choice out there but he's a hell of a lot better than we have now. Would you make the deal?? 1 1 8 7 3 1 2 Quote
Albany,n.y. Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Never!!!!!! You do realize that no coach has ever won a Super Bowl with 2 different teams. If you make the deal you're guaranteeing the Bills won't win a Super Bowl mainly because you gave up 2 high draft choices in hopes that Payton will do something nobody in the 57 years of Super Bowls has EVER DONE. I think anyone who wants to fire McDermott is being ridiculous. 1 2 1 1 2 Quote
Bangarang Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) What makes Payton better? Because he has an offensive background? He had one of the best QBs ever in his prime for majority of his time in NO and managed to make it beyond the Divisional Round 3 times in 15 years. People complain that we lack talent but are cool with giving up multiple draft picks for a coach? Pass Edited January 30, 2023 by Bangarang 12 6 2 1 Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 No!! Coached one of the best QBs & a good roster for 15 years & got 1 SB appearance/win in his 3rd season, other 14 years were the same as what we have now. He's not an upgrade & that's an expensive price to pay to get a poorer version of Bill Parcells post Giants coaching. 1 Quote
nedboy7 Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 The Bills go to the playoffs now regularly. The suffering of the fans has never been higher. 2 2 Quote
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 The biggest problem next year will not be whether players are still buying into the "process", problem 1a & 1b will be the 2 teams that were playing for the AFCCG yesterday. It won't be the 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th biggest problems either. As long as Josh and him are good, the rest of the team will follow, regardless of how they feel. There's no known rift between Josh and him, so. Also with where they are with the cap and lack of difference makers, trading 1st and 2nd rounders isn't wise unless it's for a playmaker. Quote
ghostwriter Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Too old and how many Super Bowls did he win with HOF QB Drew Brees? And regardless how I feel about this coaching staff (I agree with you) I don’t think Terry is ready to move on from Beane/McD. I don’t see it happening. Quote
wppete Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Can we trade McDermott and Leslie Farzier for Sean Payton??? Has anything like that ever been done before. Would love to see it. Edited January 31, 2023 by wppete Quote
US Egg Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 “Sean Payton Queston” …..whatever the question is, the answer is No, he’s not coming to coach the Bills anytime soon. Anything else to ask? Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 55 minutes ago, arcadia bob said: I believe that the current coaching staff has done all the can with the BILLS team. Just can't see the players buying into the process anymore, this is going to be the team's biggest problem next year, not the draft,free agents ect.I would offer the Saints our 1 and next year's #2 to get it done. Payton may not be the best choice out there but he's a hell of a lot better than we have now. Would you make the deal?? So you even state he's not the best choice out there but giving the Saints our first and 2nd round picks anyways because he's a step up? Seems logical. Quote
VaMilBill Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: What makes Payton better? Because he has an offensive background? He had one of the best QBs ever in his prime for majority of his time in NO and managed to make it beyond the Divisional Round 3 times in 15 years. People complain that we lack talent but are cool with giving up multiple draft picks for a coach? Pass In Payton’s defense, he should have made the SB twice if not for one of the worst no-call DPIs in nfl history. 1 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said: Never!!!!!! You do realize that no coach has ever won a Super Bowl with 2 different teams. If you make the deal you're guaranteeing the Bills won't win a Super Bowl mainly because you gave up 2 high draft choices in hopes that Payton will do something nobody in the 57 years of Super Bowls has EVER DONE. I think anyone who wants to fire McDermott is being ridiculous. I mean there’s also a first time. Andy Reid came really close to doing this. Payton is never coming to Buffalo but it’s not the worst thought. But for some of his faults, McDermott is a really, really good coach. 1 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, arcadia bob said: I believe that the current coaching staff has done all the can with the BILLS team. Just can't see the players buying into the process anymore, this is going to be the team's biggest problem next year, not the draft,free agents ect.I would offer the Saints our 1 and next year's #2 to get it done. Payton may not be the best choice out there but he's a hell of a lot better than we have now. Would you make the deal?? Throw out the guys that built the team to bring in a coke head guy that won it once a million years ago. Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Victory Formation said: Too old and how many Super Bowls did he win with HOF QB Drew Brees? And regardless how I feel about this coaching staff (I agree with you) I don’t think Terry is ready to move on from Beane/McD. I don’t see it happening. I mean they consistently had top 10 offenses and Brees had a terrible arm. He is definitely one of the best offensive coaches in the nfl. 1 Quote
Buffalo Junction Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: In Payton’s defense, he should have made the SB twice if not for one of the worst no-call DPIs in nfl history. You could probably say the same thing about Mike McCarthy. 🤷♂️ Quote
arcadia bob Posted January 31, 2023 Author Posted January 31, 2023 Getting Payton does a few things, Dorsey and Frasier are both gone. I like Dorsey but he's in over his head, Frasier his defense does not work in the current NFL. It should really help Josh to have a real offensive minded HC.Yes he has only one SB but how many coaches out there who have never got the Sb let alone won one. I say get it done now because you will be in the same situation next year. 1 Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, arcadia bob said: I believe that the current coaching staff has done all the can with the BILLS team. Just can't see the players buying into the process anymore, this is going to be the team's biggest problem next year, not the draft,free agents ect.I would offer the Saints our 1 and next year's #2 to get it done. Payton may not be the best choice out there but he's a hell of a lot better than we have now. Would you make the deal?? Lol, and this would be a good idea in your mind? Somebody would punch you in the side of the mouth Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, arcadia bob said: I believe that the current coaching staff has done all the can with the BILLS team. Just can't see the players buying into the process anymore, this is going to be the team's biggest problem next year, not the draft,free agents ect.I would offer the Saints our 1 and next year's #2 to get it done. Payton may not be the best choice out there but he's a hell of a lot better than we have now. Would you make the deal?? F no. I'm not against a full overhaul, but Payton is not part of that stunt. Quote
ArtVandalay Posted January 31, 2023 Posted January 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Never!!!!!! You do realize that no coach has ever won a Super Bowl with 2 different teams. If you make the deal you're guaranteeing the Bills won't win a Super Bowl mainly because you gave up 2 high draft choices in hopes that Payton will do something nobody in the 57 years of Super Bowls has EVER DONE. I think anyone who wants to fire McDermott is being ridiculous. No coach has ever won his first super this far into his tenure with a team. So by your own admission we should fire McDermott because historically he has no chance of winning a super bowl here. 1 Quote
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