Drive-thru marijuana dispensary near Highmark?

[DrDawkinstein]

6 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I will say, we took our 9-10 year old grandson to NYC a couple years ago. I wish it didn’t smell like Woodstock.  But it did. He was wise and kind enough to not bring that up. I wasn’t in the mood to go down that road with my young grandson. It’s not my place. 

 

I hear you.

 

But he also might not have brought it up because to him, it's just a normal piece of the background landscape that he barely notices. Whereas you and I have 40, 50, 60ish years of bias ingrained in us that it is "bad" and to always notice it because it is (or used to be) a big deal.

 

Gen Alpha is already showing much, much lower usage than previous generations. Especially in states where it is fully legal. It is something "parents do" and therefore the kids think it's lame. It's no longer something cool and badass and subversive.

 

And still probably better than NYC smelled in the 80s

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I hear you.

 

But he also might not have brought it up because to him, it's just a normal piece of the background landscape that he barely notices. Whereas you and I have 40, 50, 60ish years of bias ingrained in us that it is "bad" and to always notice it because it is (or used to be) a big deal.

 

Gen Alpha is already showing much, much lower usage than previous generations. Especially in states where it is fully legal. It is something "parents do" and therefore the kids think it's lame. It's no longer something cool and badass and subversive.

 

And still probably better than NYC smelled in the 80s

 

When we used to drive to Hilton Head and had to go past the paper mills outside Savannah nobody ever failed to say “what the hell is that smell 😱???

 

He was 10 in basically rural Georgia. Not Manhattan! 

 

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Edited Tuesday at 09:39 PM by Augie

[Buffalo716]

12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I hear you.

 

But he also might not have brought it up because to him, it's just a normal piece of the background landscape that he barely notices. Whereas you and I have 40, 50, 60ish years of bias ingrained in us that it is "bad" and to always notice it because it is (or used to be) a big deal.

 

Gen Alpha is already showing much, much lower usage than previous generations. Especially in states where it is fully legal. It is something "parents do" and therefore the kids think it's lame. It's no longer something cool and badass and subversive.

 

And still probably better than NYC smelled in the 80s

Smoking cigarettes, was something parents did do.. and it didn't stop the young kids from smoking cigarettes or think it's lame... In fact smoking looked cool back in the day

 

Drinking alcohol was something adults did.. yet it didn't make drinking uncool  for the younger people 

 

The oldest people of generation alpha are 15.. still plenty of time to start smoking pot lol

 

They also vape and zyn .. there's 15-year-olds vaping

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 09:46 PM by Buffalo716

[DrDawkinstein]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Smoking cigarettes, was something parents did do.. and it didn't stop the young kids from smoking cigarettes or think it's lame... In fact smoking looked cool back in the day

 

Drinking alcohol was something adults did.. yet it didn't make drinking uncool  for the younger people 

 

The oldest people of generation alpha are 15.. still plenty of time to start smoking pot lol

 

They also vape and zyn .. there's 15-year-olds vaping

 

 

 

Sure. But cigarettes and alcohol also have a ton of advertising money poured into them, often targeted at kids. And both are far more addicting.

 

For sure on the vape garbage. There is definitely a problem there.

 

My point in the usage comment was to illustrate the shift in thinking about "weed". We all grew up being taught a much different mindset. It will be interesting to see how it all shifts over the next years/decades.

 

There has definitely been a change. The numbers dont lie.

 

https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/marijuana-use-teens-study

 

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In 2011, 23.1% of adolescents indicated they were current users, but by 2021, this figure had dropped to 15.8%. Additionally, the percentage of adolescents trying marijuana for the first time before age 13 also saw a notable decline, from 8.1% in 2011 to 4.9% in 2021.

 

In 2021, marijuana use was most prevalent among 12th graders (22.4%), followed by 11th graders (18.7%), with lower usage rates in the earlier grades. From 2011 to 2021, all grades experienced a notable decline in current marijuana use, especially among ninth graders. While there was an overall downward trend over the years, there were slight increases in use in 2013 and again in 2019.

 

Now, that report does not that usage goes up as kids get to 12th grade and continues to increase as they age. But that is just adults making their own decision.

 

To my earlier point, the young kids dont care as much anymore. It isnt as big a deal.

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Sure. But cigarettes and alcohol also have a ton of advertising money poured into them, often targeted at kids. And both are far more addicting.

 

For sure on the vape garbage. There is definitely a problem there.

 

My point in the usage comment was to illustrate the shift in thinking about "weed". We all grew up being taught a much different mindset. It will be interesting to see how it all shifts over the next years/decades.

 

There has definitely been a change. The numbers dont lie.

 

https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/marijuana-use-teens-study

 

 

Now, that report does not that usage goes up as kids get to 12th grade and continues to increase as they age. But that is just adults making their own decision.

 

To my earlier point, the young kids dont care as much anymore. It isnt as big a deal.

For sure

 

 I also was not interested in any of that at 12 13 years old either

 

I had friends when I was 12 stealing my mom's 12 packs and getting wasted and I just didn't like how they acted drunk lol

Edited Tuesday at 10:02 PM by Buffalo716

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Dunno. But up until now your entire beef in this thread has been about the smell and having to smell it, and finding it disgusting, pervasive, and gross. Same could easily be said for cigs and any/all types of smoke.

 

If you want to move the goal posts now that we are getting into limiting a lot of products of the same nature then that's on you. Let's be consistent tho.

 

As far as the intoxicating nature goes, ask any cop on your walk into the stadium or working any crowd control. They'll tell you they'd rather have everyone on weed which chills people out and makes them more peaceful over alcohol which almost always leads to trouble. So not sure that shift in argument makes sense.

No goalposts have been moved.  Can't have an open container of a liquid intoxicant.  So why is a smoked intoxicant allowed to be used in a public place? The open container point was raised in response to your complaint about a nanny state. 

[Augie]

I remember parents coming to pick a group of us up from the movies spilling their “roadies” as they slalomed down the roads between snowdrifts. Different times. Not saying better or worse, but different. 

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

No goalposts have been moved.  Can't have an open container of a liquid intoxicant.  So why is a smoked intoxicant allowed to be used in a public place? The open container point was raised in response to your complaint about a nanny state. 

 

Fair enough. No weed, cigarettes, cigars, pipes, or vapes in public. You got my vote.

[Augie]

12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Fair enough. No weed, cigarettes, cigars, pipes, or vapes in public. You got my vote.

 

I think they all have their place, and we generally know what they are. But there is a lot of gray area. A kid doesn’t taste what you have in your brown bag. But they get the waft, and I don’t like that. But I also think cigars are for golf courses. 

 

It all depends. 

 

BTW, I really enjoy a hint of someone else’s cigar in proper dosage. It should never be forced upon you. 

 

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Edited Tuesday at 10:30 PM by Augie

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Augie said:

 

I think they all have their place, and we generally know what they are. But there is a lot of gray area. A kid doesn’t taste what you have in your brown bag. But they get the waft, and I don’t like that. But I also think cigars are for golf courses. 

 

It all depends. 

 

So as usual, folks want to restrict the individual things they dont like or partake in, and not restrict similar/same things they do like or partake in. Classic humans!

 

End of the day, no matter what substance or product we prefer or not, we just have to hold our noses and deal with it. None of it is a big deal.

 

[US Egg]

Have seen on a few occasions Sr. citizens openly smoking pot at lawn chair type freebie concerts. 
 

They look ridiculous.
 

 

[Augie]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

So as usual, folks want to restrict the individual things they dont like or partake in, and not restrict similar/same things they do like or partake in. Classic humans!

 

End of the day, no matter what substance or product we prefer or not, we just have to hold our noses and deal with it. None of it is a big deal.

 

 

As we walked around Manhattan with our 10 year old grandson, we could barely smell the urine and vomit. I guess that is our upside! 

 

Have you been there? There is nothing subtle about it. I wish it was just another smell, but it crushes the smells of NYC in places. That’s saying something. 

 

Be decent to other people. Don’t subject others to things they may not want themselves or their family to be subjected to.  That’s how I see it. It’s not about rights. 

[Buffalo716]

55 minutes ago, US Egg said:

Have seen on a few occasions Sr. citizens openly smoking pot at lawn chair type freebie concerts. 
 

They look ridiculous.
 

 

Stop making fun of my father 😂

[ExiledInIllinois]

4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

So as usual, folks want to restrict the individual things they dont like or partake in, and not restrict similar/same things they do like or partake in. Classic humans!

 

End of the day, no matter what substance or product we prefer or not, we just have to hold our noses and deal with it. None of it is a big deal.

 

Well... Second hand smoke is and the particulate matter it may be creating... It probably isn't a big deal outdoors, it's still polluting.  And common courtesy says don't expose your nuisance to others... Especially if it harms their health... We all gotta share the same spaces... Limit the exposure. 

 

There's probably going to be rises in lung cancer in coming years...  Even the idiopathic cases...

 

Just pulled into a parking lot today and the odor of the car pulling next to me was unbearable... One dude, on another note, was he driving high, putting everyone at risk too?

 

Not trying to be a jerk.  All kinds of sh*t around us in the air, why add to it.  It is pretty disgusting.  The smell, the highness... Just as bad as texting and driving, getting others sick, etc...

 

I guess I can go on, but don't want to diss your ability. 😏 

Edited Wednesday at 02:58 AM by ExiledInIllinois

[Wacka]

14 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

And still probably better than NYC smelled in the 80s

Or SF in the 2000s. Would have to go do jobs in SF and have to visit the city offices on Market St. Would get there just as things were opening at 8:30-9 AM The business owners would be washing the urine off the  sidewalks. Now they have to clean the s*** off. Back then the druggies and bums would only clog up the escalators to the BART with their s***. 

[teef]

i do get where people are coming from with the smell as it's just so potent.  is it the end of the world? no...but people should use the same courtesy as the would when smoking cigs as mentioned.  i think part of that is how ny rolled it out.  if i'm not mistaken, the rule was that you could smoke pot in the same areas that you could smoke cigs.  that always struck me as odd, as it created way too much of a gray area.  

 

enforcement would be impossible, so what can you do other than trying to be considerate of others.  that being said, i do smell it a lot less in public than when it first became legal.  i'm not sure if the freedom buzz wore off, but it's now rare for me.  i've been told by everyone that nyc is the exception along with denver.  the place stinks of weed.