Scott7975 Posted January 30, 2023 Author Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I think it's an interesting question, whether the scheme is finished or whether it has continued to evolve. I agree, it seems to have become predictable, what the good coaches do is continue create changes that cover the holes. The result, if you do it well, is that after 5-6 years you have a defense that can do a lot of different things well. If it doesn't evolve, it just becomes beatable. One reason I think that the schemed may continue to be a good scheme is that the league still is a passing league. Having seven mobile guys playing behind the line seems like a good approach. But it has to adjust. To me this is what our defense is... Play soft with everything in front of you. Get to the ball quick and make the tackle. Dont get beat deep. Make the team drive the entire field in short bits without the big chunks. Hope the team makes a mistake. Odds say they will over that extended amount of time. The gist of it anyways. That works against teams in the regular season for the most part. It doesnt work in the playoffs because you are now facing elite QBs. Those QBs, like Mahomes and Burrow, dont make enough mistakes for that defense to work. Which is why our D gives up a lot of points in the playoffs compared to the regular season. 4 3 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Success said: I was thinking more "hot at one time, a long time ago." But I'm open to interpretations. Sexy in photos when you're drunk? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, zow2 said: Mahomes on one ankle is a better thrower of the football over the middle than Allen. You can see that in just one Qtr and over his career. As i’ve said before, Allen is the better all around football player, but Mahomes is a better QB. You want to see what Mahomes looks like with the OL Allen had last week? Go watch his Super Bowl against the Bucs. The Chiefs made it a point to fix the problem that offseason. Will Brandon Beane? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: To me this is what our defense is... Play soft with everything in front of you. Get to the ball quick and make the tackle. Dont get beat deep. Make the team drive the entire field in short bits without the big chunks. Hope the team makes a mistake. Odds say they will over that extended amount of time. The gist of it anyways. That works against teams in the regular season for the most part. It doesnt work in the playoffs because you are now facing elite QBs. Those QBs, like Mahomes and Burrow, dont make enough mistakes for that defense to work. Which is why our D gives up a lot of points in the playoffs compared to the regular season. It is all predicated on tight coverage and a front four that can rush. If your coverage can't cover (injuries) and your front four can't rush (talent and injuries) then no matter how you shuffle the deck chairs on the Titanic the movie ends the same. Edited January 30, 2023 by Maine-iac 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 13 seconds didn't teach you? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 There's no doubt in my mind that Cincy could've easily hung 40 on us if they didn't let off the gas. This game is a perfect example of a defense being better on paper (ours) but not on the field in playoff football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Gotta agree. Between zero pressure and loose coverage, we made it just too easy for Burrow. Ravens gave us the blueprint. We ignored it. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Frazier is an utter failure. His defense is not applicable to the modern NFL. Simple as. McD can do the right thing and move on from him. Otherwise he needs to go too. I have faith in him, but there needs to be change. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Coaching is a symptom of the owners’ level of expectations. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 It is coaching. The people with blinders on are the executives at OBD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 It’s 70% coaching with this team! Scheme, game planning, ability to switch things up on the fly etc…. We need a few more players with greater ability but yes. Our Coordinators are middle of the pack!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I'm jealous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Does anyone know how long coordinators contracts are? Is it usually indefinite? If Frazier were to retire would that have probably happened this week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just stay humble and hungry, cause there always gonna be plays you’d want back!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 It is coaching. As said this vanilla D just didn't work this year. And ok, so Hyde was huge as was von. What good coaches need to do is adjust. Moreso, even with them, we need to not be the cover 2 is what it is team. Professionals will find ways to beat you because there's no real change up and it's now easy to know what to expect and therefore exploit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Yup if we go status quo next year it will be more of the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Remember when we signed Mario Williams and then had Wahnstedt (spelling) as the DC. They were so bad. Bring in Pettine and then Schwatz and Mario was a beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, 4th&long said: The bills D scheme is tired and has been figured out a long time ago. And requires guys who can run and tackle. We lack both. Our defense is slow on the back end and can’t tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Get pressure and it changes everything. Our D plan had no clue what it was doing. We look like a high school team compared to KC. And it’s not talent. That was a 7th round pick getting the pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 I agree. Their players came out with a heartbeat, but you can see that people sre being schemed into successful positons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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