All GM's Make Mistakes

[ArtVandalay]

8 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

In 2020, the Eagles desperately needed WR help.  First round pick was Jalen Reagor.  Very next pick was Justin Jefferson.  Reagor is no longer with the Eagles.  Jefferson is one of the best two or three WR in the league.  Maybe the best.  Yet, Eagles are in NFC Championship a couple of years later.  

 

Beane's been far from perfect and we all know the list   trading Wyatt Teller, picking Ford over Metcalf and A.J. Brown, Basham instead of Humphrey, Bernard instead of Parham, hell even Oliver instead of Simmons.  Some of that is hindsight, some of it is not.  

 

Point is, none of those "mistakes" are fatal.  This is, however, an enormously consequential off-season for Beane and the team.  He needs to make rebuild of the offensive line number one priority (same as KC did after Super Bowl loss to Tampa Bay), establish a legitimate running game that doesn't depend on Allen, somehow introduce flexibility into a defense that has grown way too stale and hope we can avoid serious injuries.  

 

Not saying it will happen but there is certainly hope that he can fix what is obviously broken.

He's hasn't been able to do it for any of the 6 years he's been here. What makes you think this year is any different?

 

At this point its evident he can't identify offensive line talent.

 

Imagine if we had a player committing the same egregious mistakes for 6 straight years and never being held accountable.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

8 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

In 2020, the Eagles desperately needed WR help.  First round pick was Jalen Reagor.  Very next pick was Justin Jefferson.  Reagor is no longer with the Eagles.  Jefferson is one of the best two or three WR in the league.  Maybe the best.  Yet, Eagles are in NFC Championship a couple of years later.  

 

Beane's been far from perfect and we all know the list   trading Wyatt Teller, picking Ford over Metcalf and A.J. Brown, Basham instead of Humphrey, Bernard instead of Parham, hell even Oliver instead of Simmons.  Some of that is hindsight, some of it is not.  

 

Point is, none of those "mistakes" are fatal.  This is, however, an enormously consequential off-season for Beane and the team.  He needs to make rebuild of the offensive line number one priority (same as KC did after Super Bowl loss to Tampa Bay), establish a legitimate running game that doesn't depend on Allen, somehow introduce flexibility into a defense that has grown way too stale and hope we can avoid serious injuries.  

 

Not saying it will happen but there is certainly hope that he can fix what is obviously broken.

 

20M over the cap, It's going to be a hell of steep hill for this staff but like you've stated, it's their own doing.

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

I was talking about the Chiefs o line.  The Bengals o line backups aren’t better than the Bill o line. 

this is a weird  straw man crusade you keep repeating.  It lacks any intellectual foundation. It’s absent of thought.  

It’s well thought out. I heard it right here.

[BillsVet]

All GMs make mistakes, but some make more and then get fired.  Others achieve moderate results and eventually get fired.  A select few, typically those who draft a true franchise QB, win championships and stay on.  

 

Then again, it takes ownership to be invested just enough.  The Pegula's have given McBeane everything they've asked for it appears...and at some point they'll tire of excuses and bad playoff results with a 258M investment on the payroll.  

 

 

[PBF81]

9 hours ago, cba fan said:

w Frazier philosophy on D Bills will never win a SB under him. You could not even see DB's in picture on Bengal pass plays.

 

I ran the numbers over the past four seasons for Frasier's Defense in the playoffs.  Here are the per-game averages over those 8 games: 
 

24 for 38 for 272 Yards, 1-3/4 TDs, 5/8 INT allowed 

28 carries for 132 Yards, 1 Rushing TD allowed 

389 Total Net Yards allowed  

25.5 Points Allowed (31  PPG allowed the last 5 games, so Frasier isn't learning anything)  

24 1st-Downs allowed 

2.75 Sacks 

1 Fumble Recovery every 4 games  

7 of 14 3rd-Down Conversions allowed 

60% (9 of 15 in all 8 games) 4th-Down Conversions allowed  

 

That's very bad.  

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Beane is a great GM based on the Josh Allen pick alone. The way he had the foresight & ability (and balls) to maneuver his way into the top 10 to draft a project QB who likely be a first ballot HOFer when it’s all said and done is super impressive. It’s not an accidental pick that felt into his lap like Brady, this was a chess move acquiring picks a year in advance to get his guy. BB made the Bills contenders again after nearly 2 decades of failure. It’s not his fault Von Miller got inured and Frazier’s scheme is crap. I want to see what an aggressive & innovative coordinator can do w/ this defense. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

This team desperately needs another WR.

 

There is no size at WR and average speed.

 

 

[Nitro]

5 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

This team desperately needs another WR.

 

There is no size at WR and average speed.

 

 

They lost Isaiah Hodgins who has size to keep Jake Kumerow a strictly special teamer.  Adding talent at WR is a given.  O line is average at best.

[Matt_In_NH]

Drafting becomes more important now than the last few years when they had more money to use in FA.   

[Andy1]

I’d like to see statistical ratings for GMs, like there is for players. 

[cba fan]

16 hours ago, Billznut said:

I’d agree but McD just doesn’t trust rookies at other positions as we’ve seen. Is he really going to trust 1-2 rookies protecting his QB?  One missed block could end our season. I think McD really will be hesitant to do it. And pretty much no chance they put two rookies on the line. One at most. 

current line misses blocks every game.

[mannc]

1 hour ago, Andy1 said:

I’d like to see statistical ratings for GMs, like there is for players. 

People have tried, but it’s extremely complicated and the results aren’t very convincing.

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

18 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

All GM's Make Mistakes

 

 

[78thealltimegreat]

1 hour ago, Nitro said:

They lost Isaiah Hodgins who has size to keep Jake Kumerow a strictly special teamer.  Adding talent at WR is a given.  O line is average at best.

Oline is currently 26th in the league they aren’t average they are horrible 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 hour ago, Nitro said:

They lost Isaiah Hodgins who has size to keep Jake Kumerow a strictly special teamer.  Adding talent at WR is a given.  O line is average at best.

Can this fanbase stop with Isaiah Hodgins? 

 

He is 6'4". 

 

But he was a 6th Rounder because he runs a 4.64 40. 

 

He is a 700-yards per season possession WR. 

 

I'm talking about another #1 WR. 

 

Diggs can't be trusted in these big Playoff games. He disappeared last year at Arrowhead, and he disappeared at the Bengals. 

 

 

[PBF81]

11 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Beane is a great GM based on the Josh Allen pick alone. The way he had the foresight & ability (and balls) to maneuver his way into the top 10 to draft a project QB who likely be a first ballot HOFer when it’s all said and done is super impressive. It’s not an accidental pick that felt into his lap like Brady, this was a chess move acquiring picks a year in advance to get his guy. BB made the Bills contenders again after nearly 2 decades of failure. It’s not his fault Von Miller got inured and Frazier’s scheme is crap. I want to see what an aggressive & innovative coordinator can do w/ this defense. 

 

Here's my response to that take, when they drafted Allen no one said a word about his ability to run.  All they talked about was his ability to make any pass. 

 

Point being, his running/scrambling is a HUGE part of his game.  Beane didn't forecast that, so let's not give him credit for it.  That part of it was luck for him, Beane that is.  And don't get it wrong, he'd still get credit for Allen's arm, but honestly, take away Allen's ability to extend plays, run, etc., and that's several fewer wins every season.   To be blunt, Allen's hardly the best pocket-passer in the league straight up.  And I love Allen, I wouldn't take anyone else.  He's very bright too and has every intangible that anyone could want.  

[Airseven]

...some more than others.

[Shortchaz]

1 minute ago, Airseven said:

...some more than others.

You’re telling bloody stories about me again 

[Jauronimo]

21 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

What would be a “fatal” mistake for Beane?

Starting a land war in Asia.

[The Jokeman]

Let's look at a AFC counter parts draft from 2020.

 

 

Clyde Edwards-Helaire averaging about the same rushing yards as Devin Singletary but has missed 12 games the last two seasons. C

 

Willie Gay Jr. Became a starter mid way through his rookie season. Put up some good tackles numbers this year. B

 

Lucas Niang 9 offensive snaps since drafted. D-

 

L'Jarius Sneed starter and good not great #2 CB. B

 

Michael Danna lost starting job this season but did get a career 5 sacks.  C

 

Thakarius Keyes no longer a Chief F.