st pete gogolak Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 In 2020, the Eagles desperately needed WR help. First round pick was Jalen Reagor. Very next pick was Justin Jefferson. Reagor is no longer with the Eagles. Jefferson is one of the best two or three WR in the league. Maybe the best. Yet, Eagles are in NFC Championship a couple of years later. Beane's been far from perfect and we all know the list trading Wyatt Teller, picking Ford over Metcalf and A.J. Brown, Basham instead of Humphrey, Bernard instead of Parham, hell even Oliver instead of Simmons. Some of that is hindsight, some of it is not. Point is, none of those "mistakes" are fatal. This is, however, an enormously consequential off-season for Beane and the team. He needs to make rebuild of the offensive line number one priority (same as KC did after Super Bowl loss to Tampa Bay), establish a legitimate running game that doesn't depend on Allen, somehow introduce flexibility into a defense that has grown way too stale and hope we can avoid serious injuries. Not saying it will happen but there is certainly hope that he can fix what is obviously broken. 7 2 3 Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 1 minute ago, st pete gogolak said: In 2020, the Eagles desperately needed WR help. First round pick was Jalen Reagor. Very next pick was Justin Jefferson. Reagor is no longer with the Eagles. Jefferson is one of the best two or three WR in the league. Maybe the best. Yet, Eagles are in NFC Championship a couple of years later. Beane's been far from perfect and we all know the list trading Wyatt Teller, picking Ford over Metcalf and A.J. Brown, Basham instead of Humphrey, Bernard instead of Parham, hell even Oliver instead of Simmons. Some of that is hindsight, some of it is not. Point is, none of those "mistakes" are fatal. This is, however, an enormously consequential off-season for Beane and the team. He needs to make rebuild of the offensive line number one priority (same as KC did after Super Bowl loss to Tampa Bay), establish a legitimate running game that doesn't depend on Allen, somehow introduce flexibility into a defense that has grown way too stale and hope we can avoid serious injuries. Not saying it will happen but there is certainly hope that he can fix what is obviously broken. As Norman Bates's mother says: "Get down there and run the hotel. What do you think we can live on? Hope?" 1 2 1 Quote
Boatdrinks Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 Of course they do. Those who make the fewest win championships. They have to hit on a QB ( check) a few mid rounders that outperform, and the high picks have to feature a few all pro level performers. Beane is out of Mulligans with the high picks. 3 2 1 Quote
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 It would easier to point out Beane's good moves than it would be to point out his multitude of mistakes. He's a joke. 2 3 1 1 1 2 Quote
cba fan Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) w Frazier philosophy on D Bills will never win a SB under him. You could not even see DB's in picture on Bengal pass plays. Edited January 29, 2023 by cba fan 4 3 1 Quote
Simon Says Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Nice breakdown 1. Rebuild OLine 2. Impoved run game with less reliance on Josh . Teams have learned that if they contain him,he is less dangerous 3. Stale defense Edited January 29, 2023 by Herb Nightly Quote
John from Riverside Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 38 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: As Norman Bates's mother says: "Get down there and run the hotel. What do you think we can live on? Hope?" We like winning Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: We like winning Cool maybe they'll win one before I die. Probably not. Especially not with this team Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 What would be a “fatal” mistake for Beane? Quote
Billz4ever Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 45 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: In 2020, the Eagles desperately needed WR help. First round pick was Jalen Reagor. Very next pick was Justin Jefferson. Reagor is no longer with the Eagles. Jefferson is one of the best two or three WR in the league. Maybe the best. Yet, Eagles are in NFC Championship a couple of years later. Beane's been far from perfect and we all know the list trading Wyatt Teller, picking Ford over Metcalf and A.J. Brown, Basham instead of Humphrey, Bernard instead of Parham, hell even Oliver instead of Simmons. Some of that is hindsight, some of it is not. Point is, none of those "mistakes" are fatal. This is, however, an enormously consequential off-season for Beane and the team. He needs to make rebuild of the offensive line number one priority (same as KC did after Super Bowl loss to Tampa Bay), establish a legitimate running game that doesn't depend on Allen, somehow introduce flexibility into a defense that has grown way too stale and hope we can avoid serious injuries. Not saying it will happen but there is certainly hope that he can fix what is obviously broken. Yep, they do, except some make less mistakes than others and that's what separates great GMs from average or poor GMs. If you strike out with draft picks for a few years, that's going to catch up to you. You're left with too many holes to fill and you don't have the cap space to fill those holes from free agency. Beane needs to ace this year's draft to keep the Bills competitive. Quote
aristocrat Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 One great draft can turn this team around. 1 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: What would be a “fatal” mistake for Beane? Speaking in terms of this year's draft anyway...making any defensive picks before at least the 4th round, IMO. Edited January 29, 2023 by Billz4ever Quote
CoudyBills Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 59 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: In 2020, the Eagles desperately needed WR help. First round pick was Jalen Reagor. Very next pick was Justin Jefferson. Reagor is no longer with the Eagles. Jefferson is one of the best two or three WR in the league. Maybe the best. Yet, Eagles are in NFC Championship a couple of years later. Beane's been far from perfect and we all know the list trading Wyatt Teller, picking Ford over Metcalf and A.J. Brown, Basham instead of Humphrey, Bernard instead of Parham, hell even Oliver instead of Simmons. Some of that is hindsight, some of it is not. Point is, none of those "mistakes" are fatal. This is, however, an enormously consequential off-season for Beane and the team. He needs to make rebuild of the offensive line number one priority (same as KC did after Super Bowl loss to Tampa Bay), establish a legitimate running game that doesn't depend on Allen, somehow introduce flexibility into a defense that has grown way too stale and hope we can avoid serious injuries. Not saying it will happen but there is certainly hope that he can fix what is obviously broken. The Eagles were at least making picks to try and fill their need. That's a huge difference. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Speaking in terms of this year's draft anyway...making any defensive picks before at least the 4th round, IMO. no matter how such picks turned out? the mere act of picking D before 4th is a “fatal” error? lol 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: no matter how such picks turned out? the mere act of picking D before 4th is a “fatal” error? lol Heading into a draft where your glaring issues are with the OL and WR2? Yes Edited January 29, 2023 by Billz4ever 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: What would be a “fatal” mistake for Beane? Not winning a Super Bowl at least that’s what I’ve heard Nothing else matters Just fired him already and get it over with Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 Just now, John from Riverside said: Not winning a Super Bowl at least that’s what I’ve heard Nothing else matters Just fired him already and get it over with what else matters at this point? Feel good stories? 1 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 Just now, Mr. WEO said: what else matters at this point? Feel good stories? Nothing else does matter we like winning we like winners. If you don’t win it regardless of your record all you need to be sent packing line up the next guy. Quote
The Wiz Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: no matter how such picks turned out? the mere act of picking D before 4th is a “fatal” error? lol Maybe a fatal error for the offense. The team won on the back of Allen and diggs. They spent 5 out of their last 7 1st or 2nd round picks on defense. The only 1st round picks they used for offense, was to trade for diggs. They need to get better on the side of the ball that they are paying their star players on. Edited January 29, 2023 by The Wiz Quote
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