B-Man Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Yes. Yes they do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Surprised no one else has discussed this, and with a little more substance in the OP Oh wait 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 We are a wildcard team at best next year. We’ve hit out the ceiling with this regime and the rest of the division/conference knows how to beat us. The only thing the Bills have going for them is that Josh Allen is better than everyone and will find ways to win 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, uticaclub said: We are a wildcard team at best next year. We’ve hit out the ceiling with this regime and the rest of the division/conference knows how to beat us. The only thing the Bills have going for them is that Josh Allen is better than everyone and will find ways to win That “only thing” being Josh Allen is a very nice “only thing” to have and until the rest of the east can find a QB to challenge him, he will continue to win the division year after year barring injury. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: The AFC east showed it can beat us already this year. I feel like next year we could regress & it could get alittle iffy. 15-3 against the division last 3 years. Sure next year will be their year 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 The Pats have an OC and McCorkle. Who knows what they'll do. The Jets have a great team but no QB. So they don't have a great team. Miami built a team with twice as much talent as Brian Flores' teams but the same number of wins. Yeah I think we're good. We still have Frazier though so the Division Round/AFCCG is our ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Yes and I suspect it won't even be all that close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: The AFC east showed it can beat us already this year. I feel like next year we could regress & it could get alittle iffy. We were 3 plays and 8 total points away from being undefeated in the regular season. Everyone needs to let that sink in before posting threads about firings or are we still good/ can we still do it. Can the Bills get better? SURE. Can they get worse? SURE. But let's slow down. Edited February 1, 2023 by loyal2dagame 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 as of now i tend to think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I would say at this point, yes. Simply due to the fact that the teams in the AFC east are the same as they were at the end of the season (i.e. free agents haven't left/been added, no draft yet, etc.). So just based on that I would say if all 4 teams fielded the same teams they did at the end of this season (obviously there will be changes on every team), then yes, the Bills win the AFC east. It's too early to say as we don't know what moves will or won't occur in the next 3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, teef said: as of now i tend to think so. So…..how about now??? 😋 We still have the best QB in the division, and they will work to shore things up around him. As @What a Tuel points out, 15-3 over the last few years would indicate our chances are rather good, even if we had a goofy loss or two last year. That Miami game in the oven is not something I consider seriously. You could call it 15-2. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: The AFC east showed it can beat us already this year. I feel like next year we could regress & it could get alittle iffy. We won the division by more games than any other division leader. We will be fine. No, really. We will. Step back from the ledge. Edited February 1, 2023 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) Going to be a lot more difficult this year, i would give us 50/50. Jets still don't have a viable QB, Mac Jones will get better with a real OC but not by much and Tua is extremely frail. Unfortunately I think the Bills regress in 2023, too many holes not enough cap space. Edited February 1, 2023 by RoyBatty is alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Let's see how FA and the draft play out for all four teams. I will say this the Dolphins are not that far off. I don't know what they will do with their QB situation given Tua's health. Also, if the Jets get Rodgers, then they can definitely challenge the Bills for the division. I actually prefer the Jets D over the Bills D. I don't see NE challenging the Bills right now, but things could look different when the season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: Surprised no one else has discussed this, and with a little more substance in the OP Oh wait Oh my bad I didn’t go through every post. I’m pretty sure I post a topic n 5 more come behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 If the Jets had a steady QB, I'd probably pick them to win the AFCE. Miami? Can't say. They're hot and cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) On 1/26/2023 at 4:10 PM, Success said: Patriots - their D was better than ours this year, and one of the top D's in the NFL. If we had that D last week, we'd be playing this coming Sunday. Now, they have an ACTUAL OC coming in, to coach a QB who will never be elite, but isn't as bad as we always say. Jets - I thought they should have made the playoffs this year. And that was with bad QB play for most of the year. They are going for a vet - Rodgers, Jimmy G., who knows. Their D is already one of the top units in the league, and they have some great young players. I think Saleh is the real deal. Dolphins - obviously, the greatest threat. If Tua was healthy all year, things might have played out very differently over the past few weeks. They are a very good team, on both sides of the ball. I think the AFC East could be historically good as a division. It will be such a fight - I'd still pick us to come out on top, but there will be a few close games that will likely decide it in the end. Thoughts? If people can’t take their unbiased hat off and take an honest look at where we are at and where our divisional opponents are then I don’t know what to tell them. Everything you wrote is spot on. I would add the Pats are a very good rushing team too. A real OC and some off-season upgrades to receiving group CBs make them a legit playoff contender. The other thing people don’t think about (outside the division) is that Cincy still has a rookie QB deal, and will have a lot of cap space this year to get even better. Bills face KC and Cincy this next season again and still have the 6 divisional games, all of which (when healthy) could prove to be legit playoff contenders and tough opponents next year with the right offseason. And along with all that, Bills have some real glaring holes to address like OL and WR while on a tight cap. And we are looking at losing some key players potentially to FA (Poyer, Edmunds, Devin) that will create more holes. Then there is Morse, he is a candidate to potentially retire between age and concussions. And finally, our two highest paid defensive players are coming off ACL injuries (Tre and Von). We will be a double digit win team still, but the divisional title is far from a sure thing IMHO. We need to find the right pieces in FA and land some good finds in the draft to increase the odds we remain the big dogs of the AFCE. Edited February 1, 2023 by Alphadawg7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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