Steptide Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 Kromer next? Think he did a pretty bad job this year 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, GerstAusGosheim said: This makes absolutely no sense. This coach was widely praised and credited with the success of developing Taron Johnson into being one of the best nickel CBs in the league. And he was working with 2/3 string safties most of the season (paired with backup rookie CBs and little pass rush/no Von Miller) Just a guess... Those safeties, Hamlin and Johnson, have been on the roster for a few seasons and it was expected that they were being coached up to be able to step right in when Hyde and Poyer aged out. Hamlin did "just ok" as long as he had Poyer telling him what to do and even then was shakey, and Johnson was complete garbage. They were not nearly as developed or ready as anyone hoped. I dunno. 🤷♂️ 2 Quote
jahnyc Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 Would have thought that you would wait to fire assistants until after a new DC is in place so they would have input on defensive hirings and firings. 1 1 Quote
HoofHearted Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I saw some interesting analysis on the Hurst TD Burrow used a hand signal that we though we stole from their NE game which meant tunnel screen to Chase They had switched it against us so everyone bit on the Chase fake screen That's embarrassing if true. Teams change their signals and calls within games - why would they think it would remain the same from week to week? 2 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Which ones? Wassamatta? Guilty conscience? 😁 1 Quote
LeGOATski Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, Beck Water said: McDermott *did* fire Rico Dennison and the following year Juan Castillo. But I think the list of coaching assistants who have "pursued other opportunities" is longer. Maybe, I just don't think it's something unique to McDermott's regime. If they need to fire someone, they will. Quote
Beck Water Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Steptide said: Kromer next? Think he did a pretty bad job this year I was disappointed in our OL, that's for sure. Quote
Big Turk Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Just a guess... Those safeties, Hamlin and Johnson, have been on the roster for a few seasons and it was expected that they were being coached up to be able to step right in when Hyde and Poyer aged out. Hamlin did "just ok" as long as he had Poyer telling him what to do and even then was shakey, and Johnson was complete garbage. They were not nearly as developed or ready as anyone hoped. I dunno. 🤷♂️ Maybe it goes more to show that not many 6th round players should be starting safeties? 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, LeGOATski said: Maybe, I just don't think it's something unique to McDermott's regime. If they need to fire someone, they will. Certainly, I just think he has a preference to give a guy a hot minute to call around and line something up and then "leave to pursue other opportunities" because that's how it was handled when Andy Reid fired McDermott as DC - it was painted in the media as a decision to pursue another opportunity with the Panthers as their DC, even though it was rumored to be a firing (and actually was). I agree that if he needs to fire someone, he will. Quote
H2o Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Steptide said: Kromer next? Think he did a pretty bad job this year I don't think Kromer was the problem. You can't polish a turd. 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Maybe it goes more to show that not many 6th round players should be starting safeties? Micah Hyde - 5th round pick Jordan Poyer - 7th round pick 🤷♂️ 1 1 1 Quote
Steptide Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, BillsFanInRaleigh said: Maybe more to come? This leads me to believe all that off coverage defense may not have been Frazier. At least not completely. Makes sense too seeing what happened in the 13 seconds last season. Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 So the Frazier contract stuff is speculation (I Think). But I will say that from all accounts, generally, assistant coach contracts are 3 years in length and Leslie just finished his 6th year here. Again this is an assumption. He as originally signed in 2017 as DC. When his contract was up he signed a new one that named him Assistant head coach/DC. So who knows if that was longer than 3 years? Quote
H2o Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, Steptide said: This leads me to believe all that off coverage defense may not have been Frazier. At least not completely. Makes sense too seeing what happened in the 13 seconds last season. Frazier is calling the plays and is responsible for the playbook. The other guys are just position coaches. 1 2 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Maybe it goes more to show that not many 6th round players should be starting safeties? The 49ers are going to the Super Bowl with a seventh round QB 😳 1 Quote
Jauronimo Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: so he did a good job this year? Please expand. Did you watch the Bengals game against its backup OL, or the Dolphins game. Who cares if Miller loves him. I ask you for one example of him being a yes man and any rationale as to why he should be fired and posing that question means that I must believe he did a great job? Making up *****, getting defensive about it, and making up more ***** is a poor way to have a conversation. I did watch the Bengals game. Phillips is headed for surgery today. DaQuan Jones didn't play. Oliver's pec injury had him playing with half his torso in a brace. Miller was on IR. Line play looked pretty amazing when everyone was healthy early in the year. I guess success is a function of talent and lack of success lands only on coaching? 2 1 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Super Bowl! (Kidding) The only slight chance at a SB would involve Frazier & Dorsey leaving. Quote
Steptide Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, H2o said: Frazier is calling the plays and is responsible for the playbook. The other guys are just position coaches. Seems strange they'd fire him then Quote
papazoid Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 how many other position coaches lost 3 pro bowlers for significant time.... life can be cruel... Quote
JoeF Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Any examples of him being a yes man? Just one will suffice. Great point. There are none....this is a Coach who got fired by his mentor. He sleeps in his office a couple of nights a week during the season. His priority is winning not building Rex Ryan's fraternity house. I just don't understand how the opinion that he is a yes man or weak can be formed, but everyone is entitled to punching out some messages on the keyboard. The best offenses have caught up to and passed this Defense. Its time for changes and more than just tweaks. Edited January 26, 2023 by JoeF 1 1 Quote
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