Warriorspikes51 Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Ed Oliver + Isaiah McKenzie for Brandin Cooks seems fair Quote
John from Riverside Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 30 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I thought he was hurt. Beane’s comments at his presser seemed to say otherwise. Then he proceeded to diminish his trade value by saying we need more out of him. Nice work Brandon. I’m growing more and more convinced that he’s here to handle the cap. That’s his forte. Player evaluation and drafting has been atrocious since 2019 - the exception the Diggs trade. The comments or just absolutely ridiculous on this board You don’t get to 13 and three whatever you have an incompetent GM they can’t draft and player evaluate 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I thought he was hurt. Beane’s comments at his presser seemed to say otherwise. Then he proceeded to diminish his trade value by saying we need more out of him. Nice work Brandon. I’m growing more and more convinced that he’s here to handle the cap. That’s his forte. Player evaluation and drafting has been atrocious since 2019 - the exception the Diggs trade. Well if his role is to handle the cap, he’s done a piss poor job of that too. I just feel like we are going to be dead men walking next season. The book is out on us and we’ll lucky to get a wild card, hopefully the rest of the division sucks too. Oliver for anything. He played himself out of a contract last Sunday Edited January 30, 2023 by uticaclub 1 Quote
SCBills Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Seems like 90% of the fanbase wants to trade Oliver. Which means I'm sure we won't do that. And normally I wouldn't question the GM, but lately it seems like this forum makes better Day 2 picks than our front office, so... Quote
Fallser Posted January 30, 2023 Posted January 30, 2023 Ed is a nice player, but not a 9th pick in the draft nice...watching the defenses from this weekend and then looking at how undersized Ed is, it's not a wonder we can get pushed around a little bit. The Eagles OL hogs would've squash Ed like a bug had we met in the SB. We need some beef in the middle. I'd trade him if you could find a willing trade participant... Epenesa, Pbbt, we might be offered a Jugs branded ball bag? Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 I like Ed but I have seen rumors of a couple second round picks on Twitter, which I like that idea. He has not flourished the way I had hoped and it might be our system. Maybe he is more valuable to someone else and we can spend the money elsewhere. 2 2 Quote
Chaos Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: I like Ed but I have seen rumors of a couple second round picks on Twitter, which I like that idea. He has not flourished the way I had hoped and it might be our system. Maybe he is more valuable to someone else and we can spend the money elsewhere. Hard to believe Oliver with a 1 year 11 million dollar contract is worth a second round draft pick. 4 Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, Chaos said: Hard to believe Oliver with a 1 year 11 million dollar contract is worth a second round draft pick. I put on my post it was on Twitter, so it probably is leaked from his agent but I would consider it at that point. Quote
Milanos Milano Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 6:02 PM, Gunsgoodtime said: Yes. Espenesa too, for whatever you can get. I would listen to offers on Basham too, although I imagine it would be pretty quiet on all 3 of their calls. Time to shift the wasted DL picks onto the offense. If you can get a 7th for that lb you took in the 3rd last year you take it. On 1/25/2023 at 6:03 PM, Billl said: If someone offers a 3rd or 4th round pick for him, that’s a no-brainer. How sad that we are trading for a short term loss. Good GMs take those late rounders and trade them for 2nd and 3rd round picks. Look at Minnesota, drafted Diggs in the late rounds and got a 1st round pick for him. Why can’t we do that? Why are we so terrible for decades? 2 2 Quote
RiotAct Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said: I like Ed but I have seen rumors of a couple second round picks on Twitter, which I like that idea. He has not flourished the way I had hoped and it might be our system. Maybe he is more valuable to someone else and we can spend the money elsewhere. if a team is dumb enough to give us 2 2nd-rounders, we instantly do that. 1 Quote
Motorin' Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Chaos said: Hard to believe Oliver with a 1 year 11 million dollar contract is worth a second round draft pick. For what it's worth, PFF's draft simulator is accepting trade offers for Oliver in the mid-70's. Quote
ghostwriter Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 I think Buffalo should dump as much cap in 2023/2024 as possible while remaining as competitive as possible. We need to balance the books long term while hopefully accumulating as many draft picks as we can. 1 1 Quote
SCBills Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Motorin' said: For what it's worth, PFF's draft simulator is accepting trade offers for Oliver in the mid-70's. Perfect. I’d do it yesterday. 2 Quote
dpberr Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 I suspect they will trade him at the trade deadline in November and see if he has a great first couple months of the season and sell high. Quote
Saint Doug Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 This guy has near-zero trade value. While they may not have his pedigree, there’s many Olivers in the NFL. Basically a JAG and no one is going to be excited to pay him that salary. 2 Quote
ghostwriter Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Saint Doug said: This guy has near-zero trade value. While they may not have his pedigree, there’s many Olivers in the NFL. Basically a JAG and no one is going to be excited to pay him that salary. He has crazy upside though and brute strength. He’s also very young. It’s possible it clicks for him. 1 1 Quote
QLBillsFan Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: He has crazy upside though and brute strength. He’s also very young. It’s possible it clicks for him. He’s a decent player, but our cap issues.. Atlanta needs D help. How about Oliver for LB Mykal Walker and we give them a 6th next year. We save about 7-8m off cap. And a potential replacement at LB. 1 Quote
Old Coot Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 Oliver os a three technique DT. Daquan Jones is a one technique DT. They are not interchangeable. These links give an overview of their different roles. https://www.pff.com/news/defensive-prototypes-1-technique https://www.pff.com/news/defensive-prototypes-3-technique Keep in mind that Oliver played hurt for much of this year. Quote
Tipster19 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 If the Bills could get a early 3rd rder for Oliver then I say sell and move on. 3 Quote
buffblue Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said: I put on my post it was on Twitter, so it probably is leaked from his agent but I would consider it at that point. For 2 second round picks it's a no brainer lol. I would do it in a heartbeat for 1 third 1 Quote
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