The Jokeman Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 Cameron Brate might be a cap casualty, he could also be a good 2nd TE here as I can't see him costing a lot of cap money toss in wouldn't count against the UFA loss/gain formula. Also he'd be cheaper than a WR. Thoughts? Quote
LabattBlue Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 They don’t use their top 5 paid TE enough, why worry about who TE2 is? 2 9 Quote
The Jokeman Posted January 25, 2023 Author Posted January 25, 2023 35 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: They don’t use their top 5 paid TE enough, why worry about who TE2 is? because with a lack of quality slot WR we might look to move the chains other ways. 1 Quote
whorlnut Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 Are we going to do this with every player that gets cut from here until TC? 1 Quote
Malazan Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Are we going to do this with every player that gets cut from here until TC? McDermott and Frazier don't change their defense.. why should we change what we do every offseason? 1 2 Quote
boyst Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Are we going to do this with every player that gets cut from here until TC? it's a football discussion group and everyone wants to turn over every stone...so yes. historically, as well, yes. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Are we going to do this with every player that gets cut from here until TC? If we stuck to discussing players all offseason that would be a huge step up from the usual topics that dominate between Feb and June. Quote
Process Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 What's the point of signing a second TE? Do we really think Dorsey can figure out how to use both? The last two offseasons we've signed a vet #2 TE in the spring just to end up cutting them before the season starts. 1 Quote
damj Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 No. We have $625K in dead cap this year for the failed OJ Howard. Upgrade WR instead Quote
Billz4ever Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, damj said: No. We have $625K in dead cap this year for the failed OJ Howard. Upgrade WR instead And I believe Tampa gets a comp pick for that too. Incredible. 1 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: Are we going to do this with every player that gets cut from here until TC? IDK should we? Welcome to offseason man Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: Are we going to do this with every player that gets cut from here until TC? Are you new here? The only surprise was that @Tipster19 didn’t start the thread. Quote
starrymessenger Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 As a receiving TE I've liked what I've seen from Morris. Would have liked to see more of him. And Shakir. Hines, etc...I'll say this for McD, he was right to sit Bernard (outside of a few ST assignments). I think Bernard was 100% a McD pick and is a good illustration of how limited this HC is and how things will continue to suffer under the mantra of the process. No doubt intangibles are important but only when in connection with some kind of actual talent. Quote
Beck Water Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: because with a lack of quality slot WR we might look to move the chains other ways. It's a point, although if he's a "cap casualty" in Tampa, I don't know how we afford him here. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 No....the top priority HAS to be OL and WR2....I wouldn't even consider a defensive player till the 5th round... Quote
Beck Water Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, starrymessenger said: As a receiving TE I've liked what I've seen from Morris. Would have liked to see more of him. And Shakir. Hines, etc...I'll say this for McD, he was right to sit Bernard (outside of a few ST assignments). I think Bernard was 100% a McD pick and is a good illustration of how limited this HC is and how things will continue to suffer under the mantra of the process. No doubt intangibles are important but only when in connection with some kind of actual talent. So it's kind of interesting, I read an article on Beane. Basically as a young multi-sport athlete, he was always under-sized and epitomized the "it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog" mantra. McDermott was cast in the same mold (albeit, with a more restrained temper) as a DB. I wish I could find the link, IMHO it sort of shed some light on why Beane and McDermott may over-value under-sized players with "good work ethic" "good background" etc. Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 2 hours ago, LabattBlue said: They don’t use their top 5 paid TE enough, why worry about who TE2 is? They use their Top 5 paid TE to constantly block for an otherwise outmanned OL. 1 Quote
damj Posted January 25, 2023 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: And I believe Tampa gets a comp pick for that too. Incredible. on that one Hell ... this kid golfs better than me Edited January 25, 2023 by damj 1 Quote
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