Who is your choice for DC?

[Buffalo03]

Leslie Frazier's contract is now up and if McDermott and Beane are smart, he will not be resigned. I personally would like Vic Fangio. He had solid defenses in San Francisco and Chicago when he was with both teams. He's older but would be one of my top choices

[RiotAct]

Me.

[whorlnut]

Anyone who can utilize all the top assets we already have and turn them into mean qb seeking missiles…

Edited January 25, 2023 by whorlnut

[HOUSE]

Rob Ryan, The players loved the guy

[HoofHearted]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Leslie Frazier's contract is now up and if McDermott and Beane are smart, he will not be resigned. I personally would like Vic Fangio. He had solid defenses in San Francisco and Chicago when he was with both teams. He's older but would be one of my top choices

You'd be starting completely over defensively with that hire. Everyone complaining about wasting Josh's window - you're talking a 2-3 year transition from a personnel standpoint with a move like that.

[Rigotz]

The real question is — will McDermott be willing to play a defensive scheme other than his own Cover 2, zone heavy scheme that doesn’t work against good offenses?

 

If he’s unwilling to change, we will end up with another Leslie Frazier who is probably less experienced and talented than Leslie Frazier.

[Buffalo03]

Just now, HoofHearted said:

You'd be starting completely over defensively with that hire. Everyone complaining about wasting Josh's window - you're talking a 2-3 year transition from a personnel standpoint with a move like that.

Well then I guess the players better adapt lol

[Golden*Wheels]

Fangio has supposedly been linked to wherever Payton goes.

 

i do wonder what the effect will be anyway since Sean likely drives the D anyway....MAYBE a new guy is more aggressive but....would Sean let him be?

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, HoofHearted said:

You'd be starting completely over defensively with that hire. Everyone complaining about wasting Josh's window - you're talking a 2-3 year transition from a personnel standpoint with a move like that.

People never consider that. VIc Fangio runs a 3-4 defense. We'd need a bunch of LBs and a NT.

[HoofHearted]

1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said:

Well then I guess the players better adapt lol

Good luck with that lol. You wanna talk about seeing fans pulling their hair out. 😂

[MiltonWaddams]

The guy I’d want is headed to Cleveland.

[Buffalo Boy]

Not Frazier!!!!!! Or McD!!!!!!!!

[Your Brown Eye]

Preferably someone who does not call a defense that requires the secondary to play twice as far back (or more) as yards needed for a critical first down

[Buffalo03]

Just now, HoofHearted said:

Good luck with that lol. You wanna talk about seeing fans pulling their hair out. 😂

This is why players should only be drafted that fit multiple schemes. If a DC leaves or a coach decides to change a scheme, then only picking players that fit one particular scheme are useless

[HoofHearted]

2 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

The real question is — will McDermott be willing to play a defensive scheme other than his own Cover 2, zone heavy scheme that doesn’t work against good offenses?

 

If he’s unwilling to change, we will end up with another Leslie Frazier who is probably less experienced and talented than Leslie Frazier.

1. We play way more 3 and Quarters than we do true Cover 2.

2. The Eagles aren't having any issues stopping good offenses running the exact same scheme.

 

I get it, fans over-react and want to point blame at someone. We got beat in the trenches on both sides of the ball. You can't overcome that regardless of the scheme.

[Heavy Kevi]

1 minute ago, HoofHearted said:

You'd be starting completely over defensively with that hire. Everyone complaining about wasting Josh's window - you're talking a 2-3 year transition from a personnel standpoint with a move like that.

 

Josh's window is at least a decade. No one else matters.

 

What we are doing isn't working. It beats up on bad teams and folds under good offenses. Get it right is what we need to do. Continuity is great... And it's why I'm cool with giving Dorsey another year, but the defense has been continually exposed in big moments, and that's not the continuity we need.

 

I'm not neccesarily advocating for Vic, but we need a wholesale sea change in philosophy on defense or it's the same song and dance. Just getting Von healthy and praying he stays that way isn't gonna do it.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

5 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

Rob Ryan, SYSCO loved the guy

Fixed it for you.

[HoofHearted]

2 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said:

 

Josh's window is at least a decade. No one else matters.

 

What we are doing isn't working. It beats up on bad teams and folds under good offenses. Get it right is what we need to do. Continuity is great... And it's why I'm cool with giving Dorsey another year, but the defense has been continually exposed in big moments, and that's not the continuity we need.

 

I'm not neccesarily advocating for Vic, but we need a wholesale sea change in philosophy on defense or it's the same song and dance. Just getting Von healthy and praying he stays that way isn't gonna do it.

Again, the Eagles aren't having any problems running the same defensive scheme. The difference is they have DUDES across their defensive line and we don't.

[Repulsif]

I wanted Jim Schwartz, but he was hired by the Browns yesterday

 

So for a complete clarity let's try Beane doesn't hire anyone, and McDermott handle his defense by himself (which was the case anyway?), let Dorsey doing no change next year, and see that nothing of those 2 sides work, so we can be sure it was a complete failure on both sides

[BuffaloRebound]

I don’t really care.  After some time to digest what happened on Sunday, I think the right plan is to focus on the offense.  As bad as the defense was, we win if we put up 30 points.  The offense was too disjointed a large part of the season and relied on Josh being super-human to score points.