dave mcbride Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 … and Dorsey was consistently outschemed. Allen was bad too, but the circumstances created by the o-line debacle account for some of that. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/jim-kubiak-josh-allen-runs-out-of-the-magic-that-helped-cover-bills-deficienies/article_246b2c2c-9c37-11ed-a844-dba9b7f6ece2.html 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 The Bills OL IS horrible 7 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 You think so, professor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 This could be an overreaction One freaking loss.... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 It was the Jags game last year without the 3 turnovers and with a much better offense on the other side. Or for another example watch Mahomes against the Buccaneers in the Super Bowl. Any offense becomes dysfunctional when the OL is getting beaten that badly on most plays. Another thing that frustrates me about this article is it made me realize how stale our defense has become. Frazier's scheme has gotten figured out and easy to counter. Lou Anurumo's versatile scheme had us reeling all game long. Playoff games are won in the trenches and in coaching. We were totally outmatched in both on offense and defense. 3 21 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 This guy did a great job breaking everything down. Would love for somebody to do the same for the defense. I assume it would be even uglier. This is the type of loss that makes you question almost everything. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I guess Kromer didn’t work. I’m actually surprised. I would move on and try to get Greg Roman as OL coach/Run game coordinator. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Playoff games are won in the trenches and in coaching. We were totally outmatched in both on offense and defense. Our expensive defensive line was controlled by an O-line with 3 subs, including a third stringer, and the best player on the Cinci line [Karras] was playing hurt. 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 you gotta go to a lot of years of journalism school to come up with those kinds of trenchant observations 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I don’t know what more Allen can do honestly. He’s the only player I ever forgive for this offense 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 34 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It was the Jags game last year without the 3 turnovers and with a much better offense on the other side. Or for another example watch Mahomes against the Buccaneers in the Super Bowl. Any offense becomes dysfunctional when the OL is getting beaten that badly on most plays. Another thing that frustrates me about this article is it made me realize how stale our defense has become. Frazier's scheme has gotten figured out and easy to counter. Lou Anurumo's versatile scheme had us reeling all game long. Playoff games are won in the trenches and in coaching. We were totally outmatched in both on offense and defense. Unfortunately it's going to take being lapped in our own division for the owners to do anything proactively about it - they're going to give a lot of rope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I don’t know what more Allen can do honestly. He’s the only player I ever forgive for this offense Agreed. We're never going to know what Allen is capable of until they fix the OL. Can you imagine Brady playing behind this hot garbage? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Hulka Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 50 minutes ago, HOUSE said: This could be an overreaction One freaking loss.... No, that O-line sucked all year. Allen's impressive running skills hid it. That was taken away in the playoffs. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Agreed. We're never going to know what Allen is capable of until they fix the OL. Can you imagine Brady playing behind this hot garbage? This scheme/philosophy does the O-Line no favors. Could you imagine Josh playing for Shanahan? It wouldn’t even be fair. Get this man a power running game and stop asking him to be super-man on every damn play. 6 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: This could be an overreaction One freaking loss.... Nah……signs been there all season long. We won a lot of games, but something’ always felt off about the offense……too inconsistent from drive to drive. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Agreed. We're never going to know what Allen is capable of until they fix the OL. Can you imagine Brady playing behind this hot garbage? we saw it last year in the playoffs what he can do with the right OC and decent OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I don’t know what more Allen can do honestly. He’s the only player I ever forgive for this offense I'm actually going to dispute this. He could stop taking 7-step drops behind an OL that can't pass block. Josh Allen could also stop trying to throw bombs in the snow and take the short passes. I should probably put this in its own thread, but I'm not a thread starter. I think that the way Josh Allen plays is not conducive to winning big games in the playoffs. He doesn't seem capable of throwing short passes. He can throw a 60 yard bomb and his a receiver in the hands, but for some reason he can't throw a screen or hit a receiver in stride on a crossing route. When the weather gets bad and the defenses start to take away the deep threats, you have to be able to respond. I know everyone wants to blame Dorsey, but Josh's accuracy on short timing routes is not good. I think that's why those plays are not called. I want to think that it's something that he can work on, but he's 26 and I'm afraid that he is who he is at this point. This is just a depressing thought that I had driving in wet heavy snow this morning here in Cincinnati, imagining the Bills having to play in the playoffs in Cincinnati next year. 1 1 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnus00 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 37 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: This guy did a great job breaking everything down. Would love for somebody to do the same for the defense. I assume it would be even uglier. This is the type of loss that makes you question almost everything. The guys at Cover1 do a great job with that. The videos are on YouTube. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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