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Any potential trades you'd like to see? A FA you're really wanting? Do you have a favorite draft target? Who do you resign? Who do you let walk?

The OL has needed an upgrading for a while and now as much as ever. The Bengals were getting pressure with just 3 guys. Allen needs better skill players. We really need a more balanced offense and I'd love a big back.
I want an absolute beast on that OL and 3-Tech. I'd trade Oliver for draft capital.
Also, how much did lingering injuries contribute to that disasterous performance last Sunday?
 
Your approach?
 
 
 
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Just now, whorlnut said:

Offense early and often. 

And a conversation with coaching that draft picks need to be part of the game plan early. We don’t know what we have with Cook or Shakir because this old school rookies sit the bench stuff, along with the inability to utilize guys properly. 

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I think the writing was on the wall as to how badly Beane botched the WR position when he signed brown and Beasley off the streets. I think it also had something to do with Allen asking for more help cause he didn’t trust guys like McKenzie and maybe even Davis after the constant drops and bad routes. 

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Send a #2 & #4  to the Giants for soon to be superstar WR Isaiah Hodgins, he is only 24

6'3, 210 lbs. Great Hands, 5 TDs since Dec 4th. Very low cap hit.

I doubt the Giants would trade him though, nobody would be that stupid....

 

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  1. I would reduce the Salary Cap committed to defense from the highest in the league to the league average. This probably means letting Edmunds walk among other things that the real Beane won't likely do.  I would expect a committment from my Defensive Minded head coach and DC that with an average budget, they can deliver an NFL average defense, like the Chiefs or Bengals do.  If they can't deliver that committment I would start a coaching search. 
  2. I would spend committ all available draft and salary cap growth to the offensive line.  100%.  I am not saying I would draft seven offensive linement.  I am saying I would use the 7 draft picks to trade to get the best two or three linemen I could possibly get. 
  3. I would not worry about additional offensive skill players.  Diggs, Cook, Hines, (Singletary if affordable), Shakir, Knox and Davis are good enough, if we improve the line to top tier. 

Josh Allen with time is a brilliant passer, one of the best in the league. Given even an average amount of time in the pocket, Allen would elevate the production of all of the skill players we already have.  

 

On a separate track, I would consider what is an odd track for OC.  I would tell Dorsey I am opening up the position, and that Dorsey remains a candidate, but he has to provide a plan on why he is the best person to be the OC.  And I would interview others to see if I can improve that postion.   Presumably Dorsey, will have a better answer than "Obviously I will be better in year 2 than year 1".    Every player has to compete for his job every year. I don't think it is that odd to make Dorsey compete for his position. 

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7 minutes ago, Chaos said:
  1. I would reduce the Salary Cap committed to defense from the highest in the league to the league average. This probably means letting Edmunds walk among other things that the real Beane won't likely do.  I would expect a committment from my Defensive Minded head coach and DC that with an average budget, they can deliver an NFL average defense, like the Chiefs or Bengals do.  If they can't deliver that committment I would start a coaching search. 
  2. I would spend committ all available draft and salary cap growth to the offensive line.  100%.  I am not saying I would draft seven offensive linement.  I am saying I would use the 7 draft picks to trade to get the best two or three linemen I could possibly get. 
  3. I would not worry about additional offensive skill players.  Diggs, Cook, Hines, (Singletary if affordable), Shakir, Knox and Davis are good enough, if we improve the line to top tier. 

Josh Allen with time is a brilliant passer, one of the best in the league. Given even an average amount of time in the pocket, Allen would elevate the production of all of the skill players we already have.  

 

On a separate track, I would consider what is an odd track for OC.  I would tell Dorsey I am opening up the position, and that Dorsey remains a candidate, but he has to provide a plan on why he is the best person to be the OC.  And I would interview others to see if I can improve that postion.   Presumably Dorsey, will have a better answer than "Obviously I will be better in year 2 than year 1".    Every player has to compete for his job every year. I don't think it is that odd to make Dorsey compete for his position. 

That’s part of the problem with the Davis situation. He was essentially handed the WR2 job without any real competition. They more or less banked on the chiefs playoff game as being who he really was. 

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Given our cap situation I think improvement will come mostly thru the draft. I don't expect the Bills to be players in FA this year. At least no big-time signings that move the needle. I would focus on the OL if I were Beane. The Bills need to do a much better job in pass protection and running the ball.  A better stronger OL will help do that. Hopefully they get tougher as well. It was embarrassing watching the Bengals physically dominate on both sides of the ball. Von coming back should help the DL but we need to upgrade the OL. 

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Trade Oliver for cap space.

 

Cut Siran Neal to save 2.8 mil.

 

Top 2 picks at WR and OT. Another WR and 2 safeties later in the draft.

 

Resign Crowder or Beasley for 1 year vet minimum

 

Resign Phillips and Lawson. 

 

Try to resign Edmunds if the money is right. 

 

Replace Frasier.

 

Add Frank Reich as passing coordinator/ asst HC.

 

Add Greg Roman as run game coordinator 

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I don't see how we can resign Poyer and Edmunds and do anything else including signing rookies we draft.  I do think Morse is done because of cap situations and Bates moves to Center.  I don't see a reunion with Saffold unless he is taking a very low deal.  We will draft oline and RB to replace Singletary.  I don't see any WR coming that's new.  Cole will be resigned but I don't see Mckenzie staying, Hines will replace his snaps.  On defense I see them moving Benford over to safety and maybe drafting one and resigning Marlowe.  I think in all honesty they like the Dline but too many snaps lost to injury.  I see a moderately good to great Guard and draft a tackle mid round.  I also see a LB drafted and signed and Klein coming back.  Edmunds is better than Klein but Edmunds is going to get overpaid. 

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29 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

I think the writing was on the wall as to how badly Beane botched the WR position when he signed brown and Beasley off the streets. I think it also had something to do with Allen asking for more help cause he didn’t trust guys like McKenzie and maybe even Davis after the constant drops and bad routes. 


And, at that, there wasn’t an improvement.

 

McKenzie doesn’t cut it as a third / slot. Shakir showed some ability but I’m just not sure where he would fit. Johnston out of TCU is a dream on the other side from Diggs and Gabe needs to step up — drops and inconsistency are maddening. Why do other teams complete EVERYthing and we’re always like “oops”?! Even Diggs has had hands of stone at times. KC can sign guys off the street and that week they look All-Pro. The idea that one guy can anchor the room is passé — elite O teams have two or three marquee guys at WR/TE. Jefferson, Theilen, Don Beebe’s son, Hockenson. Hill, Waddle, Gesicki. Chase, Higgins, Hurst. Evans, Godwin. etc.
 

Time to upgrade the Center position and get some cap savings there. Morse is one bell ring from retirement.

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Move on from Poyer and slide Benford into the saftey role

 

Move on from Edmunds and a guy that is young that should come much cheaper is David Long from Tennessee

 

Jakobi Meyer, Allen Lazard, DJ chark are some reasonable vet wr to bring in as well as a rookie

 

 

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2 minutes ago, damj said:

Trade Oliver for cap space.

 

Cut Siran Neal to save 2.8 mil.

 

Top 2 picks at WR and OT. Another WR and 2 safeties later in the draft.

 

Resign Crowder or Beasley for 1 year vet minimum

 

Resign Phillips and Lawson. 

 

Try to resign Edmunds if the money is right. 

 

Replace Frasier.

 

Add Frank Reich as passing coordinator/ asst HC.

 

Add Greg Roman as run game coordinator 

This would be very similar to what I would do. Good job. 

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10 minutes ago, Drew21PA said:

The tape and the eyes are saying

 

TRENCHES!!!!

 

need nasty dudes up front - or start coaching these guys to be nastier 

For real we have been so vanilla too.  Bring back the creep or something like that.  Zero creativity on defense

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1. Don't panic.

2. Let Frazier go and find someone who can work with McD defense but makes it a little more aggressive.

3. Start using rookies more.

4. Stop giving guaranteed money to players who may not make roster (like Howard, Mancz, Duke Johnson or Marquel Lee)

5. Stop paying ST specialists and stop paying 5th DE and 4th DT more than vet min, no matter what.

 

As for the team:

Keep everyone from this group who stays for vet min with NO guaranteed money: Matakevich, Crowder, Quessenberry, Martin, Van Roten, Hart, Boettger, Marlowe, Klein, hell even Saffold if he takes it. Then let these guys go if they don't make final 53.

 

Make offers to all RFAs - Dodson, Jackson, Lewis 

 

Let T.Jones, Kumerow, Sweeney go.

 

Keep Edmunds for 13M aav if possible, otherwise try to tag him and trade him.

Keep Singletary for 3,5M aav on 3/4 year deal, I think he takes it

Let Poyer go unless he stays for less than 4M

Keep Phillips and/or Lawson for no more than 2M each

Trade Oliver if you can get mid 2nd for him and draft his replacement, otherwise let him play on 5th year

Trade Davis if you can get 2nd for him and draft his replacement, otherwise let him play on final year of his rookie contract

Let Hines go unless he agrees to serious pay cut.

Find the best OL FA possible and pay him.

Maybe extend Jones for one more year.

Get best backup QB available for no more than 2M (yeah take a little bigger risk on this one)

 

If there is any reason to believe that Bernard might be any good think about playing 3LBs and trade T.Johnson (save quite a lot).

 

Draft WR and OL in rounds 1 and 2

Draft OL and defense (S or LB, whatever meets need/quality) in rounds 3 and 4

 

Or swing a trade for good WR for 1st or 2nd - in that case for sure trade Oliver to create cap space.

 

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