JaCrispy Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Bills should try to trade him this offseason before he enters FA in ‘24…get whatever you can- he’s not a foundational type of player and he will cost more than he is worth Imo… Quote
Green Lightning Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 3:02 PM, Sharky7337 said: I'd argue that when your dline can't generate pressure against backups and 3rd stringers it's already a hole. Expand Well, there's that... Quote
JaCrispy Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 4:06 PM, mannc said: I just don’t know how you take an undersized, small conference guy like Oliver over a monster like Dexter Lawrence, who was the centerpiece of a championship defense at Clemson. It points to a serious flaw in the Bills’ scouting process and evaluation… Expand Oh there is definitely a flaw- they have a terrible habit of reaching to fill needs… Quote
damj Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 2:54 PM, Ethan in Cleveland said: Too many holes to fill elsewhere. Keep Oliver on the 5th year option just like you did Edmunds. He is relatively cheap and no long term cap issues. Getting rid of him is the wrong solution for the wrong problem. Oline, WR, safety, and depending on what they do with Edmunds MLB, and edge rusher are the holes. Can't make more. Expand Wrong. Oliver is $10.8 mil. Move on, he's not worth it 1 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Seen enough of 91. Good, not great player. Not worth the money he's being paid. He can ride his horse off elsewhere. Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 5:01 PM, Sharky7337 said: I'll be committed (to a insane asylum) if they extend him or pay him that 5th year salary. Expand I dont think you understand how it works. They already picked up his option. He is getting paid that money. 2 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Ed Oliver + Tre White for Aaron Donald 1 Quote
damj Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 5:57 PM, Ethan in Cleveland said: I dont think you understand how it works. They already picked up his option. He is getting paid that money. Expand Correct. Fully guaranteed. We need to find a trade partner 1 Quote
RiotAct Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 5:01 PM, Sharky7337 said: I'll be committed (to a insane asylum) if they extend him or pay him that 5th year salary. Expand haha. I’d be okay with them picking up the fifth year (if they haven’t already?) Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 3:19 PM, Beck Water said: Kudos to you for having someone in mind and suggesting him - a guy who is a FA, moreover. I think he's 1TDT? whereas Oliver is a 1TDT, but it still puts you on most folks here to have a FA target playing the correct position in mind Do you know what the injury was which placed him on IR? Expand I believe ed plays 3 tech, too small for a 1 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 5:58 PM, damj said: Correct. Fully guaranteed. We need to find a trade partner Expand If you were an NFL GM, what would you trade for Ed Oliver and his one year, fully guaranteed $10.75M contract? Quote
damj Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 6:40 PM, BarleyNY said: If you were an NFL GM, what would you trade for Ed Oliver and his one year, fully guaranteed $10.75M contract? Expand If you have the cap room and have a need at DT, there is enough there with him for an organization to think that they could get more out of him. As a GM, I would offer a 3rd round pick, but go as high as a 2. Quote
Beck Water Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 6:19 PM, BillsShredder83 said: I believe ed plays 3 tech, too small for a 1 Expand thanks, brain fart on my part although re: size similar to Kyle Williams and Harrison Phillips. I think it’s less a size than a mindset thing, just like Jordan Phillips is huge but plays 3T Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Committed to trading him hopefully. They could honestly try to trade a lot of the wasted Defensive picks if you can find a trade partner, we severely need OL and WR help. F the defense Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 6:42 PM, damj said: If you have the cap room and have a need at DT, there is enough there with him for an organization to think that they could get more out of him. As a GM, I would offer a 3rd round pick, but go as high as a 2. Expand Beane overvalues draft picks and then wastes them. While I agree my bet is you could find a team willing to give up a 3rd, then what is the point. Giving up a starting DT for a 3rd round pick? So basically Oliver for Terrell Bernard??? No thanks. I will take Oliver back on a 5th yr guarantee over a 3rd round pick. Quote
IndyMark Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 7:22 PM, Ethan in Cleveland said: Beane overvalues draft picks and then wastes them. While I agree my bet is you could find a team willing to give up a 3rd, then what is the point. Giving up a starting DT for a 3rd round pick? So basically Oliver for Terrell Bernard??? No thanks. I will take Oliver back on a 5th yr guarantee over a 3rd round pick. Expand I do appreciate your reply and thoughts here. Funnily enough, and I think I am correct, I do not think Ed started the Bengals playoff game. He sure did play early and maybe on the first series but technically he did not start the game - I think the first play Ankou was on the field. That notwithstanding, I actually do not think Ed is starting caliber. Depth? Ok. Starter? We need better. But I am fine agreeing to disagree here. Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 7:29 PM, IndyMark said: I do appreciate your reply and thoughts here. Funnily enough, and I think I am correct, I do not think Ed started the Bengals playoff game. He sure did play early and maybe on the first series but technically he did not start the game - I think the first play Ankou was on the field. That notwithstanding, I actually do not think Ed is starting caliber. Depth? Ok. Starter? We need better. But I am fine agreeing to disagree here. Expand Fair enough. I've posted many time I hated the pick, but I see him as at least an average starter at 3tech DT. And I'm fine overpaying for one year becuase I think the replacement cost would be too high and there are too many other holes to fill. Would I be shocked if they made a trade? No. Surprised and bemused but not shocked. 1 Quote
Eastport bills Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 2:48 PM, somnus00 said: Seems like, when healthy, Jordan Philips outplays Oliver, has more fire, and he's cheaper. Oliver is good. Really good at times. But he is no where near where a top 10 pick should be playing. He does not deserve a massive contract from the Bills. Expand That’s the operative term,”when healthy “ and that about 6 or 7 games a season from his time in Az till they dumped him on us last year. 1 Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 I can’t help but believe he will have his best year by far. And if so, exactly why they should move on when the year is through. Quote
Mrbojanglezs Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 the beat guys speak highly of him, but he is just a JAG to me other then his occasional flash play. Quote
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