Coaching Malpractice - Frazier Needs to be fired - the play that illustrates it

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

  On 1/24/2023 at 2:46 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

No that’s what Miami did on 3rd and 15. I definitely wouldn’t do a zero on 3rd and 15.

 

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I'm not a fan on zero blitz on 3rd and short. 5 yards is short for today's NFL offenses.  Rather see it on 3rd and 7-10. Just too easy to get 5 yards. And one missed tackle and they are guaranteed to get the first. Miss tackle on 3rd and 8 and you still have a shot at pursuit getting there. 

[Aussie Joe]

Interesting... Who can us fans sue for this malpractice?

[Fan in Chicago]

  On 1/24/2023 at 3:10 AM, 0017 said:

It’s such a bummer, he was one of my favorite players on this team, I know I’m not alone. Hope he gets his game back. 

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You are not alone. I love the guy.  

The team will have to go through multiple surgeries thos offseason but he is one of the organs that should be untouched and allowed to heal fully

Edited January 24, 2023 by Fan in Chicago

[billieve420]

  On 1/24/2023 at 3:42 AM, Billl said:

So you want Tre White trying to press Jamar Chase?  That seems like a good idea to you?

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Deep ball still has lower percentage of being completed versus throw few yards away. Tre made play on ball just last week against Dolphins on deep ball that he was able recover and knock it out of the player’s hand.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Funny thing is we did ultimately end up holding them to a FG on this possession anyway. But the damage to the Bills psyche was already done. 

[wppete]

  On 1/24/2023 at 2:26 AM, Donuts and Doritos said:

Frazier's not getting fired. So we need to get him hired as a HC instead. Someone get the Cardinals # & let's start making calls.

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If Frazier gets a HC interview that will just prove it’s complete BS. 

[Billl]

  On 1/24/2023 at 3:51 AM, billieve420 said:

Deep ball still has lower percentage of being completed versus throw few yards away. Tre made play on ball just last week against Dolphins on deep ball that he was able recover and knock it out of the player’s hand.

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That’s great and all, but sometimes one guy is just better than the other guy.  Chase is a far superior player to White at this point in White’s career.  White had a chance to tackle him short of the first down.  Frazier put him in the position to make a winning play.  Chase trucked him.  Not much you can do about that as a DC.  Cincy’s best offensive players (Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Mixon, etc.) are simply better than Buffalo’s best defensive players.  Milano is a good player, but when he’s easily the best guy on your defense, you aren’t stopping a team like the Bengals.  That’s not a coaching deficiency.  It’s a talent (and health) imbalance.

[LifeLongBillsFan]

  On 1/24/2023 at 3:46 AM, Aussie Joe said:

Interesting... Who can us fans sue for this malpractice?

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The NFL is purely an entertainment industry - can’t sue for anything

With that note - there is a good chance games are scripted  

[Aussie Joe]

  On 1/24/2023 at 4:02 AM, LifeLongBillsFan said:

The NFL is purely an entertainment industry - can’t sue for anything

With that note - there is a good chance games are scripted  

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Ok.. in that case "malpractice" is the wrong term to use

[Cotton Fitzsimmons]

  On 1/24/2023 at 2:30 AM, Einstein said:

 

Normally i’d agree, but in this particular situation, the OP’s photo really does tell the truth.

The Bills lined up 10 yards off the ball and never moved. Even after the snap. Tre only moved after the ball was caught.

 

So incredibly easy to beat.

 

Here is a photo after the snap.

 

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It’s almost like they tried to lose. There’s really no explanation for any of this. 

[LifeLongBillsFan]

  On 1/24/2023 at 4:05 AM, Cotton Fitzsimmons said:

It’s almost like they tried to lose. There’s really no explanation for any of this. 

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Did you watch the Charges last game?  Looked a lot like that.  The NFL isn’t always what it seems 

 

[Norcalbillsfan]

  On 1/24/2023 at 3:42 AM, Billl said:

So you want Tre White trying to press Jamar Chase?  That seems like a good idea to you?

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In that zero blitz situation he has to play press or at least play up because the line to gain was too far away for tre to make a play on a slant that easily picks up the first like he did. Did the outcome seem like playing that far back was a good idea to you? 

[Dr.Sack]

Frazier had a senior moment. Perhaps im a nice guy but I don’t believe the guy is as incompetent as yesterdays game showed. 

[Motorin']

  On 1/24/2023 at 2:36 AM, Simon said:

 

Thanks for the better pic.

I still have a hard time trusting still shots of fluid situations.

Personally, I prefer to see sticky man if you're going to send both 'backers into the A gaps.

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This play killed me live. I wanted to throw something at the TV. I could believe they played this far off on such a crucial 3rd down. It was infuriating in the moment. And even worse looking at it now. 

 

[wppete]

  On 1/24/2023 at 4:56 AM, Trock said:

He’s a Rooney interview. That’s all, they’re using him. 

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That is just insane. 

[biggerdaddynj]

Here’s a link to the lineage of our defensive coordinators. Read the little snippet about Frazier for a good laugh (or cry).  FWIW it reminded me that I liked the Jim Schwartz year as our DC (2014):

 

https://pro-football-history.com/franchpos/7/8/buffalo-bills-defensive-coordinator-history

[bills11]

Fraziers/ McDermott's philosophy has been an issue.

 

They design the defense around limiting big plays..we blitz far less than other teams..this worked fairly effectively when the entire defense was relatively healthy and tre was able to provide upper level coverage along with both safeties playing at an elite level..the scheme obviously needs to be tweaked when we can't even keep teams in front of us anymore . We don't get consistent pressure and barely beat the dolphins with their backup QB tyreek and waddle torched us in every matchup 

[John from Riverside]

Firing Fraser today would be an emotional response. I don’t want bills management to do that.

 

If they do an evaluation and decide that’s not the way that they wanna go anymore than fine

[billieve420]

  On 1/24/2023 at 6:10 AM, bills11 said:

Fraziers/ McDermott's philosophy has been an issue.

 

They design the defense around limiting big plays..we blitz far less than other teams..this worked fairly effectively when the entire defense was relatively healthy and tre was able to provide upper level coverage along with both safeties playing at an elite level..the scheme obviously needs to be tweaked when we can't even keep teams in front of us anymore . We don't get consistent pressure and barely beat the dolphins with their backup QB tyreek and waddle torched us in every matchup 

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McDermott comes from Jim Johnson 4-3 attacking type system. I still believe it is more about the play caller versus system itself. McDermott should be on hot seat next year and take on calling plays. I just can’t see anything changing much if things remain status quo. Hopefully someone hires Frazier to be their HC but don’t see that happening.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Im hoping for him to get a HC job but if not he should be let go. Ive never liked his style of defense and we need a change  3 years ago