thenorthremembers Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Taking the emotion out, the Bills are a team that is built w/ a defective O-line and not enough weapons but a good not great D, top end WR1, & phenomenal QB. They have no $ or great draft capital or position, bc of the build (we are 30th in assets this off season, that's 3rd to last, see below). That makes it tough to fix the problems they have & do much. The Coach seems to have an aversion to rookies, so we can't just build through the draft but no $ to do much else. We desperately need 2 more true elite weapons to compete w/ Cincy & KC & have to fix 2 to 3 positions at O-Line. We have used 2 of the last 7 first round picks in O, so far from a guarantee we'll address things in the draft as it appears we are overly focused on the D. So Beane is going to have to do a lot of contract restructures to try to do anything more than run it back largely, w/ a few tweeks. But I don't logically see them getting much farther next year. & Yes if the Browns get Deshawn Watson for a full year next year I do logically have a reason for them to move forward. The Bolts need to stay healthy, but a coaching change would do them good. So in the end I agree w/ Diggs, this stinks, he should be upset. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-evaluating-which-nfl-teams-are-best-set-up-for-the-2023-offseason They won 14 of 18 games. Diggs isn't going after the coaches alone. He is going after his QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, balln said: Should have just stayed pat and chosen Jefferson at WR. Still on a rookie contract and better than diggs in everyway, now. And younger. Objectively better move / beane didn’t make also I’ll never forgive McD for trading out of mahommes pick for tre white and Zay jones You’ll be a marvellous GM once you get that crystal ball working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: I’d love Josh and Diggs if they walk up to McBeane and basically say improve the offense or trade us. Of course, neither can be traded due to dead cap etc. but… Ok that's ridiculous, yes they can say we need to improve the offense but the whole do what I say or trade us ultimatum will not work with the front office or the team. So basically you'd like a mutiny to occur. No thank you, no thank you at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Ummm, you lost me here. Wanting "fiery" dudes who have some "nastiness" on the field doesn't mean we want actual "bad guys." I don't want anything to do with any of the guys you've listed above (outside of Hopkins whose biggest issue was getting popped for PEDs while rehabbing an injury). You can be a tough, mean, mofo dawg on the field, without being an actual criminal. I am certainly not advocating getting criminals; I’m only pointing out that the teams that beat us in the postseason seem to be ok with harboring a few of them if the talent is there. More broadly, there are a LOT of crazy people in the NFL. The Jimmy Johnson Cowboys teams were loaded with them. And let’s face it — you have to be a little crazy to play in the NFL given the extreme violence. We all want guys who are able to turn it off at 4:15 pm on a Sunday, but that’s not realistic for a lot of players. It’s a sport that rewards a violent bent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 minute ago, BillzFreak said: Ok that's ridiculous, yes they can say we need to improve the offense but the whole do what I say or trade us ultimatum will not work with the front office or the team. So basically you'd like a mutiny to occur. No thank you, no thank you at all I know. Just annoyed with McBeane at the moment. And don’t think McDermott is the one to take the Bills forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, NUT said: Diggs has every right to be pissed off. His talent is being wasted by inept coaching and poor drafting. This franchise is blowing its window of opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Love Diggs. Grateful he's a Bill. Get this man some help on O and a truly elite play caller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 58 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: The only thing that showed up from Diggs yesterday was his mouth. He played like trash too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 did he tweet that if we'd kept the picks we could've had Justin Jefferson, the first seed/bye week this year (because Jefferson single-handedly beat us for the Vikes), and draft picks to trade for some other need, and that he could've been whining about Kirk Cousins last Monday instead of the Bills offense today? Please read and advise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 He is an easily frustrated guy. This has nothing to do with his long term relationship with Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: They won 14 of 18 games. Diggs isn't going after the coaches alone. He is going after his QB. Close only counts in horse shoes & hand grenades. The goal was a Superbowl. It's not about 13 regular season wins it's about a SB win. Diggs tweet doesn't single anyone out, doesn't say Allen or anyone else, it says he doesn't like loosing. Take emotion out of it. Allen made motions in clear frustration yesterday when a receiver didn't go the way he wanted them to on a route (as he's done at other points). But no one gets on Allen about that. Nor should they. Allen hasn't said it's an issue, nor has McD. Until they say it is this is an over reaction. 😉 Hopefully it all blows over after a week away on a beach. Edited January 24, 2023 by Donuts and Doritos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: I want you to be a professional and a leader who doesn’t have a tantrum and storm out of the locker room after a loss. Anyone who thinks this behavior is acceptable has their head in the sand. He’s a wr let’s be real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: The Bills have an overabundance of kumbaya vibes on the squad now and I for one want someone with some aggro juice who trash talks and absolutely hates losing. The Bills need MORE players like him. Love it or hate it, that sort of attitude is a winning one in the NFL. There’s a huge middle ground between what your complaints are and what Diggs is doing. I agree the team could use some nastiness to it. But this isn’t that. Anecdotally I’ve won 12 national championships (6 coaching 6 as an athlete). I’ve had big fights with my teammates. I’ve had a shoving match or two. I was a bad teammate at one point or another in my career. But I would never leave my team at their lowest. And I certainly wouldn’t double down and just say “what you want me to be ok with losing”. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Chaos said: If this is true, then you can't keep both Diggs and Dorsey and expect to succeed. This was my guess in the other thread. Josh and Diggs work on stuff, and Dorsey ruins it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, UKBillFan said: So is he saying Josh is not up to standard? He sure wasn't yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Man, the body language between him and Allen was just bad yesterday. Allen looked like he couldn't be bothered w/ Diggs' attitude anymore. I get not accepting sub-standard play from the team, and not accepting losing. But Diggs is a leader on this team, and he set a poor example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Just now, BullBuchanan said: He sure wasn't yesterday. Let’s be honest, he wasn’t allowed to be. This wasn’t a game where he stupidly turned the ball over or made dopey plays. He had no protection and covered receivers who, behind Diggs, are not good enough anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Just now, UKBillFan said: Let’s be honest, he wasn’t allowed to be. This wasn’t a game where he stupidly turned the ball over or made dopey plays. He had no protection and covered receivers who, behind Diggs, are not good enough anyway. that may very well be. Josh was certainly under siege. He did have his shots however and came up short on many occasions. 3 passes to Diggs in particular stand out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Just now, UKBillFan said: Let’s be honest, he wasn’t allowed to be. This wasn’t a game where he stupidly turned the ball over or made dopey plays. He had no protection and covered receivers who, behind Diggs, are not good enough anyway. This. Josh threw one garbage time INT. If he played poorly the only way to tell is if he made bad reads. I think the OL and WRs played poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mango said: There’s a huge middle ground between what your complaints are and what Diggs is doing. I agree the team could use some nastiness to it. But this isn’t that. Anecdotally I’ve won 12 national championships (6 coaching 6 as an athlete). I’ve had big fights with my teammates. I’ve had a shoving match or two. I was a bad teammate at one point or another in my career. But I would never leave my team at their lowest. And I certainly wouldn’t double down and just say “what you want me to be ok with losing”. I haven’t been around long enough. Who are you? PM me please if you would. I’m not going to bug you, I’m just curious who I’m reading here. Then I totally agree — that a bigger stronger group of men needs to take the lead in Buffalo. A group of them. They keep emotional Diggs under control somewhat, but the thing is I do not want to lose Diggs’s passion for winning. I keep saying it.. heart and soul of the team. But if that’s by default because none of these OLine, DLine, LBs can step up, that’s a Bills problem, not a Diggs issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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