Drew21PA Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Well as a fan - means nothing - but ready to call it like it is - he is mediocre and just won’t get it done against excellent coaches hes choked numerous times Quote
RyanC883 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: LOL!!!! Any coach??? Dick "Skelator" Jauron? Mike "Meathead" Mularkey? Greggo Williams?? Chan Friggin' Gailey?? Were you in a coma during the drought? Oh woe is us! We have a franchise QB but can't win the big one! Get a grip and suck it up. You're not going to fire your way to a title. How many house cleanings did we endure for 17 years? Here's a little perspective for you. We've been to the playoffs 5 times in 6 seasons. We have 4 10+ win season in a row. Three straight AFC East titles. Do we step on our own d***s in the playoffs? Yes, but you don't blow up a good team out of spite. Make changes but don't get crazy. By the way, the last time we had a 10+ win season before this run was 1999. Yesterday sucked but it was a lot worse for a very vey long time. Well, since Jauron went 13-3 without Allen in Chicago, he could clearly lead an Allen team to the playoffs. Mularkey, yeah, he was a great OC with PIT and led the Bills to within 1 game of the playoffs without Allen. Gailey, had Fitz at QB. Nope, I was much around during the drought, and the constant was ZERO high-end ability at QB. Okay, I get it, you like mediocracy. You suffer from droughtitosis, the thought that changing a HC will revert the Bills to the drought era. It won't. What will happen if we keep on this trajectory is never make, much less win, a SB. Your other points are equally ridiculous, btw. Win the AFC East, what other team in the AFC East has a talented roster, yet a good QB? None. Winning regular seasons: we played in the AFC East, again, and have yet to get a 1 seed even. We didn't step on our own di**s. We got our butts handed to us by the Dolphins (who would have beaten us if their starting RB was there, IMO), and then again by the Bengals. We also embarrassingly lost last year, and the year before, and the year before. Sence a trend. Quote
Billz4ever Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, nedboy7 said: the Oline issues were overblown as their backups are quite good. Yes we were dominated. Not gonna defend either coordinator. Our D was missing how many starters? Does that factor in? What would our O-line look like with 3 backups? That right there is an indication we aren't a top tier team and Cincy is. Von Miller would've made zero difference in that game. They were getting blown off the ball on almost every snap. If your starting D-line can barely get a whiff of the QB for almost the entire game and are getting gashed on the ground at the same time, sorry, but you're not a top tier playoff team. That's not even getting into how terrible the offense looked. Quote
Low Positive Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Billz4ever said: What would our O-line look like with 3 backups? That right there is an indication we aren't a top tier team and Cincy is. Von Miller would've made zero difference in that game. They were getting blown off the ball on almost every snap. If your starting D-line can barely get a whiff of the QB for almost the entire game and are getting gashed on the ground at the same time, sorry, but you're not a top tier playoff team. That's not even getting into how terrible the offense looked. At the beginning of the game, the ball was out of Burrow's hand in 2 seconds or under. Then they started running, because they had a guard playing tackle and his strength is run blocking. And for the whole game, the Bengals took maybe 2 deep shots. Everything was quick and short with lots of YAC. That's how you mask poor OL play. 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: At the beginning of the game, the ball was out of Burrow's hand in 2 seconds or under. Then they started running, because they had a guard playing tackle and his strength is run blocking. And for the whole game, the Bengals took maybe 2 deep shots. Everything was quick and short with lots of YAC. That's how you mask poor OL play. That and the fact their receivers were pretty much running wide open all game too. Edited January 23, 2023 by Billz4ever Quote
ImpactCorey Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: this is THE MOST ridiculous take, and I'm just sick of it. First, any coach in the NFL could get this team to the playoffs. Did we have Allen and Diggs during the drought, NOPE. Second, the goal is to win the SB, not just make the postseason and lose in the divisional round or AFC Championship to an equal or superior team. With the talent on this team at QB, you need a head coach and GM that can put a winner around him. McD and even Bean have proven that they cannot do it. Also, as another poster noted, we regressed from last year. There is no improvement, and Bean is putting us into cap issues and has failed to draft adequate impact players on rookie contracts. Total failure all around. To be fair. He did also make the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor and Kelvin Benjamin. Edited January 23, 2023 by ImpactCorey 1 Quote
LabattBlue Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Will McD be one of these HC who refuses to fire a coordinator unless the owner steps in and says “fire him or I fire both of you”, and then all of a sudden he does a 180 in order to save his job? Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Allen or McD, make a choice. Without Allen this is a 5-6 win team. This is a dumb example. What is Bill Belichick without Tom Brady? But let's turn this around? How many wins with Allen if you're firing coaches every year? Edited January 24, 2023 by PromoTheRobot 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: Doing nothing doesn’t work either As a fan you have no control over what the Bills do. And frankly, letting fans have any say is a terrible idea. Quote
Awwufelloff Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: As a fan you have no control over what the Bills do. And frankly, letting fans have any say is a terrible idea. Just like letting the QB choose the offensive coordinator Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: This is a dumb example. What is Bill Belichick without Tom Brady? But let's turn this around? How many wins with Allen if your firing coaches every year? Well I'd say the Bills would win much more with Allen as the QB, then McD without Allen. Seen the same with Brady & Belichek (and Brady is 45). Quote
Imichel101 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Everyone says Andy Reid is the best HC in the NFL not named Belichick. He has been a HC for 24 years! Took the Eagles and Chiefs to a combined 8 Championship games, with a ninth coming next week. He has ONE Super Bowl. Sean Payton was the Saints coach for like 14 years and had a first ballot HOF QB, had ONE Super Bowl and several disastrous postseason losses. Pete Carrol, John Harbaugh, Mike Tonkin, All great coaches with great QBs with one or no super bowls. sh*t ain’t easy and nobody, aside from Belichick and Walsh, is out there wracking them up year after year. 1 1 Quote
ImpactCorey Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Imichel101 said: Everyone says Andy Reid is the best HC in the NFL not named Belichick. He has been a HC for 24 years! Took the Eagles and Chiefs to a combined 8 Championship games, with a ninth coming next week. He has ONE Super Bowl. Sean Payton was the Saints coach for like 14 years and had a first ballot HOF QB, had ONE Super Bowl and several disastrous postseason losses. Pete Carrol, John Harbaugh, Mike Tonkin, All great coaches with great QBs with one or no super bowls. sh*t ain’t easy and nobody, aside from Belichick and Walsh, is out there wracking them up year after year. You can add Marv Levy this this list.... Quote
nedboy7 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Billz4ever said: What would our O-line look like with 3 backups? That right there is an indication we aren't a top tier team and Cincy is. Von Miller would've made zero difference in that game. They were getting blown off the ball on almost every snap. If your starting D-line can barely get a whiff of the QB for almost the entire game and are getting gashed on the ground at the same time, sorry, but you're not a top tier playoff team. That's not even getting into how terrible the offense looked. Yes I do agree we did not really show up yesterday. Our OL would look great with their backups. Von would not have made a difference? BS. How many players were missing on D? Does it count when it's the Bills? Look at this team's record over the past 3 years. 1 Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, FrenchConnection said: At the beginning of the game, the ball was out of Burrow's hand in 2 seconds or under. Then they started running, because they had a guard playing tackle and his strength is run blocking. And for the whole game, the Bengals took maybe 2 deep shots. Everything was quick and short with lots of YAC. That's how you mask poor OL play. Of course when playing 8 yards off the line 2 seconds is plenty, but their TE was targeted more then Knox and Chase was uncovered for a TD. The two deep shots were then called PI's too. Edited January 23, 2023 by Billsfan1972 Quote
BillMafia716ix Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Sean McDermott will be here until he decides he doesn’t want to be. Y’all forget this franchise was a walking doormat for 20 years. 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 5 hours ago, papazoid said: at least another full season for HC the OC & DC will likely both change out ....either promoted or fired Who's dumb enough to promote garbage. Quote
John from Riverside Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 I don’t know the answer to the number, but I do know that after 13 and three season he’s not getting fired Do you know how many teams in the league would kill for a 13 and three season? 1 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said: Sean McDermott will be here until he decides he doesn’t want to be. Y’all forget this franchise was a walking doormat for 20 years. Unfortunately you’re correct. Quote
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