Is McDermott Really Marty Shottenheimer in Disguise?

[Barnaby Wilde]

A good coach, sensible and endearing, but will he ever get you to the next level and reach new heights?  He sure does like to be in full control of transparency.  Last year he wouldn't even talk of 13 seconds nor explain anything about that "process."  The fans deserve better than lack of accountability, not a father figure who wants to protect his kids from the media glare.  His coaches are all terrible.  Nobody likes Frasier but McDermott and Beane who also should be raked over the coals for that truly putrid offensive line, Dawkins and Saffold for starters, even beloved Bills center Mich Morse is let's face it, not big or strong enough to protect Josh and it's time Bills front office and fans infatuated with him realize this fact.  Dawkins should never see a Bills jersey again for making Josh run for his life over and over and over again.  McDermott and his coaches have jumped the shark.  If I'm Pegula, I shake up the coaching staff and put Brandon Beane on notice.  

[Bill from NYC]

Nah.....he is more of a bald Dick Jauron.

[US Egg]

…..not even close with his own hair.

[Matt_In_NH]

We all know Schotty never won but I think Andy Reed was Schotty 2.0 until he was not

[Buffalo_Stampede]

He’s the defensive version of Andy Reid.

[78thealltimegreat]

His press conference yesterday he just was a matter a fact nonchalant. Last year after the first Pats loss in the wind game he was a much more fiery guy. I think he’s just too comfortable with his job. Like he knows he’ll never be fired type a vibe. 

[DisplacedBillsFan]

Chargers fired a coach after a 14 win season and followed it up with a ton of 7, 8, and 9 win seasons with an outlier here and there (both positive and negative). For all those people wanting a coaching change, is that really what you want to go back to?

 

Only two teams make the SB each year and I’m glad we consistently have a shot and consistently win playoff games each year. Unless McDermott has multiple losing seasons in a row, he should be employed in Buffalo as the HC until he chooses to retire.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Ron Rivera and the 2011-2015 panthers … everything is a match from the one good wr, the do it all qb arhat is the offense to the defense that comes up small in big moments. 

[Big Turk]

No Schottenheimer lost in the first round most years.

4 minutes ago, DisplacedBillsFan said:

Chargers fired a coach after a 14 win season and followed it up with a ton of 7, 8, and 9 win seasons with an outlier here and there (both positive and negative). For all those people wanting a coaching change, is that really what you want to go back to?

 

Only two teams make the SB each year and I’m glad we consistently have a shot and consistently win playoff games each year. Unless McDermott has multiple losing seasons in a row, he should be employed in Buffalo as the HC until he chooses to retire.

 

Eventually they will fire on all cylinders and make it. Likely will rely on some bounces to go their way but in the playoffs who doesn't get bounces in a SB run?

8 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

His press conference yesterday he just was a matter a fact nonchalant. Last year after the first Pats loss in the wind game he was a much more fiery guy. I think he’s just too comfortable with his job. Like he knows he’ll never be fired type a vibe. 

 

He looked exhausted too honestly. Hell, I texted my friend that *I* at times was exhausted this year with all the crazy stuff that happened during the year.

 

This team desperately could have used a bye more than any team in NFL history most likely to reset and take a breather but they didn't get it.

 

I think the extra energy they had to expend last week was probably energy that completely emptied the tank.

[Barnaby Wilde]

1 hour ago, DisplacedBillsFan said:

Chargers fired a coach after a 14 win season and followed it up with a ton of 7, 8, and 9 win seasons with an outlier here and there (both positive and negative). For all those people wanting a coaching change, is that really what you want to go back to?

 

Only two teams make the SB each year and I’m glad we consistently have a shot and consistently win playoff games each year. Unless McDermott has multiple losing seasons in a row, he should be employed in Buffalo as the HC until he chooses to retire.

So, what you are saying in effect is that loyalty wins big games?  That the definition of insanity is NOT to do the same thing over and over again...  all these truisms out the window because McDermott cannot get out of the Division.  The Bills are being trolled because of OC who throws a bomb on 3rd and 2.  Coaching is overrated anyway but it comes down to one or two plays he and Dorsey always seem to zig when they should have zagged.  It's not good enough.  I like Lindy Ruff but how many years did the Sabres ride him to no Stanley Cup?  This is a coaching staff that will not hold their players accountable.  McDermott has to level with the fans no matter how much it hurts.  Team game when it comes to covering for who exactly screwed up on 13 seconds but not a team game when the organization gives all their money to one guy leaving nothing left in the pantry for anybody else.  That's why the offensive line stinks but McDermott and Dorsey had no answers other than that big play or bust mentality.  This team reminds me of the Blue Jays.  Big home runs to get to the playoffs then get shut down in the playoffs when every pitch matters.  Same deal.  Burrow had a short game and a long game.  Bills only have long game.  This thread is about coach but Motor needs to motor to a new homestead.  His 1 or 2 yard production is putting you behind the 8 ball when Bengals are getting minimum 5 yards on first downs against this fraud defense  As long as McDermott, Frasier and Dorsey are here good luck being the Toronto Blue Jays and Toronto Maple Leafs.

[DisplacedBillsFan]

27 minutes ago, Reverse Meathead said:

So, what you are saying in effect is that loyalty wins big games?  That the definition of insanity is NOT to do the same thing over and over again...  all these truisms out the window because McDermott cannot get out of the Division.  The Bills are being trolled because of OC who throws a bomb on 3rd and 2.  Coaching is overrated anyway but it comes down to one or two plays he and Dorsey always seem to zig when they should have zagged.  It's not good enough.  I like Lindy Ruff but how many years did the Sabres ride him to no Stanley Cup?  This is a coaching staff that will not hold their players accountable.  McDermott has to level with the fans no matter how much it hurts.  Team game when it comes to covering for who exactly screwed up on 13 seconds but not a team game when the organization gives all their money to one guy leaving nothing left in the pantry for anybody else.  That's why the offensive line stinks but McDermott and Dorsey had no answers other than that big play or bust mentality.  This team reminds me of the Blue Jays.  Big home runs to get to the playoffs then get shut down in the playoffs when every pitch matters.  Same deal.  Burrow had a short game and a long game.  Bills only have long game.  This thread is about coach but Motor needs to motor to a new homestead.  His 1 or 2 yard production is putting you behind the 8 ball when Bengals are getting minimum 5 yards on first downs against this fraud defense  As long as McDermott, Frasier and Dorsey are here good luck being the Toronto Blue Jays and Toronto Maple Leafs.

No, what I’m saying is it is extremely hard to make it to the SB and I prefer 13-3 with a playoff win and an annual chance at going all the way over 8 and 9 win seasons.

[Mr. WEO]

Marvin Lewis

[The Frankish Reich]

2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Ron Rivera and the 2011-2015 panthers … everything is a match from the one good wr, the do it all qb arhat is the offense to the defense that comes up small in big moments. 

That is indeed the model since that’s what Beane and McD are familiar with. The scary part for Bills fans: watching Allen take a beating and knowing that Cam was effectively done before he was 30 …

[Buffalo03]

17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Marvin Lewis

Ahhhh, the guy that went 0-7 in the playoffs. Yep. Just like McDermott 😂😂😂

[RyanC883]

2 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

We all know Schotty never won but I think Andy Reed was Schotty 2.0 until he was not

 

he lucked into Mahomes and a good GM in KC.  

[BarleyNY]

17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Marvin Lewis

Ouch

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Not saying I want McDermott gone, but I will say this team’s repeated slow starts and being outmatched physically starts with the coach. Short leash for sure. 

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

 

he lucked into Mahomes and a good GM in KC.  

“lucked” into Mahomes? More like we unlucked ourselves out of Mahomes. 

[RyanC883]

2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Ron Rivera and the 2011-2015 panthers … everything is a match from the one good wr, the do it all qb arhat is the offense to the defense that comes up small in big moments. 

 

oh, this is a good analogy.  And that got Cam's career killed.  Allen's agent should be on the phone with Pegs saying I'm either traded, sitting out, or McD and Bean are GONE.  Might be the only thing that saves this team.  Pegs is a pushover owner it seems (no changes after 13 seconds)

[Nextmanup]

Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

“lucked” into Mahomes? More like we unlucked ourselves out of Mahomes. 

Absolutely!  Some Bills fans are absolutely delirious.