VaMilBill Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: This whole season? They were 13 and three. You can’t honestly say our defense was effective all year. They never seemed to get the important stops and let teams stay in games. Rarely did we play complimentary football. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 7 hours ago, Process said: You're being way too optimistic. I hope you're right but prepare to be disappointed. Most likely more of the same next year. Personally, Leslie Frazier should be the first to go. JMTC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Higgins hair Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: They’re not going to remove a rookie coordinator that their franchise QB likes it’s not happening Possibly.. It would be a very Billsey move if they feel Dorsey was good enough. Does this franchise want to win? Or, is a terrible offense with key players like Diggs openly revolting the plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: These are unique circumstances. Marty Schottenheimer was fired after a 14-2 season. Dingy was fired also. We’re at that point now. Fans are losing interest. Money will be lost. Time to shake things up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I think the only one I would think would be considered is the D line coach. 24 minutes ago, VaMilBill said: You can’t honestly say our defense was effective all year. They never seemed to get the important stops and let teams stay in games. Rarely did we play complimentary football. Only reason we are talking about this is both sides of the football sucked against the Bengals. The defense at least had a decent excuse being without our two main leaders in Miller and Hyde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I truly believe Frazier is a good coach but something big has to change. You are wasting the peak years of Allen and Diggs. It's time to take a risk and make a move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: Guys.. guys... guys... is this defense not just mcdermotts defense? I mean really what do you think will change with our defensive philosophy if Frazier is fired? It's McDs defense and it always has been. Firing frazier for doing what mcd ask him to do is basically a cop out. We all know McD isn't getting fired so, we may as well just get used to it=p Right. But it’s time to just be a figurehead HC and employ a young brilliant guy to run a more aggressive pressure zone D (bengals DC) or straight man (Spags , 49ers). He has a ton of pressure on him every year they flub out of the playoffs 5 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: I have a sneaky suspicion that Sean's been shopping for the defensive "groceries" since day 1. Beane gets to pick the offensive players. JMHO 100. He picks guys that are culture / head coach teachers pets. I cringe now when the bills pick a player and this is what’s said about them “a coach on the field “. “His coaches loved him, team player.” bernard most recently zay jones tre white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Governor said: Dingy was fired also. We’re at that point now. Fans are losing interest. Money will be lost. Time to shake things up. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Yes in 2011. This marked the first time in Reid’s 12 year career. https://www.inquirer.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/McDermott_out_as_Reid_changes_his_mind.html There’s some interesting bread crumbs in there if you care to look. Especially about McD’s propensity to fall in love with certain players and not make changes until it’s too late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Eric Washington has to go. Kelly Skipper has run its course, bring in young blood. Obviously Frazier should retire. I don't know why guys continue to coach if they can't adapt. We run the same crappy system over and over again, so matter the opponent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Yes in 2011. This marked the first time in Reid’s 12 year career. https://www.inquirer.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/McDermott_out_as_Reid_changes_his_mind.html Cannot read, paywall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaby Wilde Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Draconator said: I don't think McBeane is going to take this domination by Cincinnati lightly. Some heads are going to roll. I'm kinda refreshing Twitter to see what it's going to be. I know, way too soon, but something is going to go down. I just don't know what or who it's going to be. Most likely scenario in my mind both Frasier and Dorsey are gone. McBeane should be looking in the mirror with that HORRIBE offensive line he hogtied Josh with. All of them. Even Morse. I know everybody loves Morse but I don't care. This is football. Go to church if you want to hear nice talk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 7 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: It will surely be Frazier. No way that doesn't happen. Not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Reverse Meathead said: McBeane should be looking in the mirror with that HORRIBE offensive line he hogtied Josh with. All of them. Even Morse. I know everybody loves Morse but I don't care. This is football. Go to church if you want to hear nice talk. Not drafting chiefs C instead of Basham will haunt my dreams . By the way the C is all pro ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Unfortunately, I doubt there will be any major changes. Maybe just a couple of positional coaches. However, Frazier should be fired, the defense was a paper tiger all year and was just severely exposed by Cinci. I would love to see Dorsey gone too. His offense always felt off all year, I know they put up some numbers but they just disappeared for long stretches during games. Nothing ever seemed to be in synch. A more veteran OC would be preferable, might help to calm JA down. Something needs to be done. They can't just let this slide and head into the next season with no significant changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 hours ago, VaMilBill said: I think Frazier should absolutely be gone. 13 seconds, now this whole season. and if McD wants to save his own butt he will fire Dorsey and get a better OC (hopefully Reich) to take the reins and make the offense more efficient and fluid I see Reich getting a HC job… probably Carolina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 hours ago, VaMilBill said: I think Frazier should absolutely be gone. 13 seconds, now this whole season. and if McD wants to save his own butt he will fire Dorsey and get a better OC (hopefully Reich) to take the reins and make the offense more efficient and fluid Reich would be a great fit for OC with JA at the helm of the offense. BUT...... 8 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Dorsey, after getting the endorsement of your franchise QB, just finished year one and improved on nearly every major stat vs 2021 He isn’t getting fired. Frazier, isn’t getting fired for losing Hyde, Miller, Hamlin, not having Tre White (80% of him) until December, or drafting AJ Epenessa and Boogie Basham. This is the more likely scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 If Fraizer is still DC next year I have no faith they will win the SB or even want to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: They’re not going to remove a rookie coordinator that their franchise QB likes it’s not happening Josh asked for Dorsey, Beasley, and Brown by name as well as jobs for Gentry and Barkley. I don’t mind going to your star QB for input but given the result of this season, it’s likely too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Dorsey, after getting the endorsement of your franchise QB, just finished year one and improved on nearly every major stat vs 2021 He isn’t getting fired. Frazier, isn’t getting fired for losing Hyde, Miller, Hamlin, not having Tre White (80% of him) until December, or drafting AJ Epenessa and Boogie Basham. ESPN Headline behind their paywall: ”Bills title window is closed.” Good. Let’s go into the off season the actual underdogs we are and will be until we win a SB or reimagine our trenches to look like the Eagles - who would have annihilated us. The underdog crap doesn't fly anymore pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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