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  On 1/23/2023 at 5:13 AM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

A positional coach is not a big enough change up. it will have to be a coordinator. The only question is will it only be Frazier or will both get canned?

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Usually heads don't roll when you go 13-3.  Both coordinators are staying unless they choose to leave.

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  On 1/23/2023 at 5:15 AM, Doc Brown said:

Usually heads don't roll when you go 13-3.  Both coordinators are staying unless they choose to leave.

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Yeah but anyone who was watching with a brain could see this wasn't a 13-3 team. Luck and schedule. Heads need to roll somewhere.

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Posted
  On 1/23/2023 at 5:11 AM, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

McDermott can't scapegoat the ST coach again, so I'm thinking it'll be Kromer. O-line was bad all year and an absolute train wreck today. Kromer would be a scapegoat that actually deserves to be fired 

 

Frazier should've been fired last year, but if he survived 13 seconds I think he survives this. The cynic in me wonders if the Bills are hoping for him to be hired as a HC somewhere else as we would get comp picks. 

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No way anybodys hiring Frazier after todays dumpster fire unless Houston is looking for somebody to fire again after a year.  Everybody wants Head Coaches from the Offensive side of the ball anyway, not a lifeless un-exciting D-Coordinator who plays bend and get man-handled defense.  If Dak is the white Kirk Cousins, Frazier is the black Dick Jauron.  

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Posted
  On 1/23/2023 at 5:17 AM, Bferra13 said:

Yeah but anyone who was watching with a brain could see this wasn't a 13-3 team. Luck and schedule. Heads need to roll somewhere.

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We had the eighth hardest schedule I believe at the end of the year and our wins over KC and Baltimore came with a healthy Von Miller.  I don't expect any changes to our coordinators.

  On 1/23/2023 at 5:20 AM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

These are unique circumstances. Marty Schottenheimer was fired after a 14-2 season. 

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How'd that work out for them?

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I said it during the game day thread. I think Frazier will be the scapegoat and let go this year. Last year it was the specials teams coordinator, this year it’ll be the defensive coordinator. 

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Posted
  On 1/23/2023 at 5:15 AM, Doc Brown said:

Usually heads don't roll when you go 13-3.  Both coordinators are staying unless they choose to leave.

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When the head coach needs to deflect blame, coordinators get fired. Happens every year. Has happened multiple times in just the last few weeks, even from teams that made the playoffs. It definitely could happen. 

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  On 1/23/2023 at 4:56 AM, Draconator said:

I don't think McBeane is going to take this domination by Cincinnati lightly. Some heads are going to roll. I'm kinda refreshing Twitter to see what it's going to be. I know, way too soon, but something is going to go down. I just don't know what or who it's going to be. Most likely scenario in my mind both Frasier and Dorsey are gone. 

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I doubt it. Frazier would be my choice. He has shown 3 straight years he can't get it done in the playoffs against good offensive teams.

 

Dorsey was a rookie and probably will improve and learn like most first timers do.

 

Will he ultimately be good enough? Who knows. Nobody does yet but he will likely get the chance to find out.

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  On 1/23/2023 at 5:20 AM, Doc Brown said:

We had the eighth hardest schedule I believe at the end of the year and our wins over KC and Baltimore came with a healthy Von Miller.  I don't expect any changes to our coordinators.

How'd that work out for them?

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The second half of our season was filled with jokers on the schedule for the most part. The writing on the wall was the Bills nearly blowing it to a third string qb at home with the season on the line. Then this beaut. I hope Mr. Pegula is as pissed as I am now. Whatever this team is doing has gotten real stale. Time for a change.

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Posted
  On 1/23/2023 at 4:58 AM, VaMilBill said:

I think Frazier should absolutely be gone. 13 seconds, now this whole season. 
 

and if McD wants to save his own butt he will fire Dorsey and get a better OC (hopefully Reich) to take the reins and make the offense more efficient and fluid

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If I'm Terry Pegula and seen how we've exited the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years, I'd insist on McD firing both Frazier and Dorsey. Brandon and Sean should also be on thin ice. Draft multiple players on offense and scrup that ridiculous zone defense. 

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  On 1/23/2023 at 4:58 AM, VaMilBill said:

I think Frazier should absolutely be gone. 13 seconds, now this whole season. 
 

and if McD wants to save his own butt he will fire Dorsey and get a better OC (hopefully Reich) to take the reins and make the offense more efficient and fluid

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This whole season? They were 13 and three.

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  On 1/23/2023 at 5:19 AM, BuffaloRebound said:

No way anybodys hiring Frazier after todays dumpster fire unless Houston is looking for somebody to fire again after a year.  Everybody wants Head Coaches from the Offensive side of the ball anyway, not a lifeless un-exciting D-Coordinator who plays bend and get man-handled defense.  If Dak is the white Kirk Cousins, Frazier is the black Dick Jauron.  

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Apparently except the Bills who have McDermott who is the white Dick Jauron. 

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Posted
  On 1/23/2023 at 5:24 AM, Billznut said:

When the head coach needs to deflect blame, coordinators get fired. Happens every year. Has happened multiple times in just the last few weeks, even from teams that made the playoffs. It definitely could happen. 

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I could see Kromer and Washington possibly getting the boot.  That's it though.

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The right move here is first, to see if Dorsey is hired away.

If not, remove him.
IMO, his creativity and ability to adapt/choose the next level of  playbook plays to the situation isn’t even college level talent. He freezes up mentally and reverts to vertical throws.

Dorsey is losing Diggs. He’s already ruined Gabe. Knox is an afterthought. If we want to keep this team mentally in the game, I would certainly look to Reich. Smarter and proven.

 

The question will be this: Will McDermott be too insecure to pull that move?
 


 

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