streetkings01 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Peyton was a loser who couldn't win anything with years of stacked New Orleans teams and was responsible for Bountygate. Yea I don’t get the Sean Payton love……outside of 1 season his teams always underachieved in the playoffs. 2 Quote
Buffalo03 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Governor said: But he switched coordinators a dozens times to save his job. Yes, we do need to dump Dorsey and Frazier. But my point is, Andy Reid took over 20 years to get win one Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Buffalo03 said: I didn't say Josh would be our QB all 20 years 😂 Well newsflash, he's going to have to be if you want to wait around for McD to create a SB defense. Quote
RiotAct Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: We are stuck and there is no way out. Pegula is not going to get rid of Beane and McDermott. McDermott has done too much for the franchise and the city to be canned. So we will waste another year on Dungy 2.0 only to come up short again. We are now on three years wasted of the best QB play this team has ever had. And nothing to show for it. Next year will be four and the cap situation will only keep getting worse. This team needed a teacher and a father figure. Now they need a mercenary assassin. Give Josh Sean Payton or Jim Harbaugh and Bills win the SuperBowl next year. Its not going to happen so we had just be prepared for another year of this crap. When McDermott says we will learn and grow from this I hope some reporter has the balls to say when do you stop learning and winning instead? Terry Pegula is a BALLER, and I trust him to make the right decisions!!!!!! 😂😂😂 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, streetkings01 said: Yea I don’t get the Sean Payton love……outside of 1 season his teams always underachieved in the playoffs. His offense put a short mediocre armed QB into the HOF and won a SuperBowl. McD can't even get out of the division round. He's available. It won't happen but it would be an upgrade. 2 Quote
popcornpam Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 What’s scary is our head coach would rather lose the game, then mix it up with another defensive scheme. Seems to be his way or the highway. 1 Quote
Buffalo03 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: Well newsflash, he's going to have to be if you want to wait around for McD to create a SB defense. How has KC's defense been under Reid since he has been there? Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Gotta waste a couple more years first, and even then if it's in the playoffs he isn't going anywhere. Remember 17 years? That'll always be the answer. We got lucky to hit on Allen. That's about it. Quote
streetkings01 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: His offense put a short mediocre armed QB into the HOF and won a SuperBowl. McD can't even get out of the division round. He's available. It won't happen but it would be an upgrade. Brees was damn good with the Charges his last 2 seasons…….more credit goes to Brees than Payton. He’s made the NFCC game 3 times in 15 years……he looks like McDermott minus the 1 Super Bowl. Edited January 23, 2023 by streetkings01 Quote
Billz4ever Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: We are stuck and there is no way out. Pegula is not going to get rid of Beane and McDermott. McDermott has done too much for the franchise and the city to be canned. So we will waste another year on Dungy 2.0 only to come up short again. We are now on three years wasted of the best QB play this team has ever had. And nothing to show for it. Next year will be four and the cap situation will only keep getting worse. This team needed a teacher and a father figure. Now they need a mercenary assassin. Give Josh Sean Payton or Jim Harbaugh and Bills win the SuperBowl next year. Its not going to happen so we had just be prepared for another year of this crap. When McDermott says we will learn and grow from this I hope some reporter has the balls to say when do you stop learning and winning instead? Agreed, I can't see anything happening with McD as long as there's butts in seats and this team gets in the playoffs, even if it's an early exit. It will be status quo as we waste Josh's Allen's best years. 1 Quote
Toyo321 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Our entire front office and coaching staff is an discarded extension of the Carolina Panthers. Beane and McD are all hand me downs from the Panthers organization. These guys are just wanna bee's that had experience with the Panthers organization, the Panthers got to a couple super bowl's but fell short.. But as we all can see, we are good but no where good enough to get to a SB as this team sits right now. Sad but true. Quote
boyst Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I've been banned before for being contrary and to the herd mentality. I can take it. That's nothing. I was banned for using a word not covered by the word filter. Of course, I spent like 10 minutes in the shout box testing every single word when a new filter was implemented... But I maintain it wasn't my fault because it should have been made a banned word! 😂 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Ironically, we get our butts kicked by Cincinnati, who had to fire a VERY successful head coach to get where they are now. Do we have another: Yep. Both Marvin Lewis and Sean McDermott never won a playoff game. Quote
BillnutinHouston Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Tomlin won 2 Superbowls Only one as a HC. And his last SB was 13 years ago. 13. Which gets to my point about Pegula's likely patience with McD. Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 If you're totally honest... Would Jauron do less with Allen? We all loved him for 5 minutes, remember? He got a big extension based on going 7-9 every year with zero QB. How about Rex with Allen? Even Chan, who I couldn't stand. Chan with Allen? Look what he got out of Fitz. McDermott is a .500 type HC who has an elite talent at QB 2 Quote
Roundybout Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: His offense put a short mediocre armed QB into the HOF and won a SuperBowl. McD can't even get out of the division round. He's available. It won't happen but it would be an upgrade. Brees had an excellent arm and was brilliant at analyzing the game, don't make it look like the '00 Ravens winning it all with Trent Dilfer. Quote
ghostwriter Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: I give McDermott the option to have 2 new coordinators to start the season or then we part ways. Yes. This is exactly where I’m at. McD has earned the right to this. 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: His offense put a short mediocre armed QB into the HOF and won a SuperBowl. McD can't even get out of the division round. He's available. It won't happen but it would be an upgrade. Are you really saying Brees would not have been a good QB without Payton? Quote
oldmanfan Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: He almost won two SuperBowls with Colin Kapernick. He was one holding call away from winning the trophy. He's done far more than McD has ever done. Close counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and back seats. Payton had a first ballot HOFer and won 1 SuperBowl. So please just stop. McD has decisions to make this offseason as does Beane. They need to make unemotional decisions whether Frazier or Dorsey come back. They need to overhaul the lines. Quote
DJB Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Should have promoted Daboll and canned McDermott like many of us wanted. can’t win with McDermott 6 Quote
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