Sherlock Holmes Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Billl said: Traded for Diggs Need more than Diggs and Josh 2 1 1 Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Shanahan's Horseshoe said: Stop looking around for players and coaches to blame. The last 4 drafts haven’t given this team a single star. A couple decent role players like Oliver, Rousseau, Knox, Singletary and Dane and that’s about it. Brutal misses like AJ, Boogie, Moss and Ford. The most egregious being the OL and DL. So when Josh plays bad, this team is not good because Beane has done an awful job in 1-3 rounds the last 4 years. I agree, I guess some people don’t like the truth around here. Beane is borderline average at drafting in top 3 rds of draft. His players are not monumental busts but none are elite either. He does his best work in rds 4-7 . This team desperately needs some talent in the trenches . We’re not built for the weather conditions in yesterday game. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 8 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: That is not a misprint WGR did some research and found the last Bills player drafted to make a pro bowl is Wyatt Teller who as we all know isn’t here right now. Brandon Beane your draft picks got exposed today. That same year they drafted Edmunds and Allen who have made the pro bowl. Saying teller is the most recent is like a twin arguing he is older than his brother by one minute. they have players but no superstars since. But it is also true the bills have the highest percentage of draft picks on the team in recent years. Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Matt_In_NH said: That same year they drafted Edmunds and Allen who have made the pro bowl. Saying teller is the most recent is like a twin arguing he is older than his brother by one minute. they have players but no superstars since. But it is also true the bills have the highest percentage of draft picks on the team in recent years. There is no defending him after that game yesterday. None of his draft picks on D showed up Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: We’re not built for the weather conditions in yesterday game My opinion. They did not game plan for the weather conditions yesterday. They come out playing all zone and watch them get to a 14 point lead before adjusting. They should have known they had to play more man. I understand they are not built for man like they are for zone but they could have put up a better plan. on offense they were handing it to cook on a wide sweep when he had no ability to put his foot in the ground d and cut. They simply did not plan for the conditions. 3 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: There is no defending him after that game yesterday. None of his draft picks on D showed up Or really defending him just being pragmatic 1 Quote
chef4131 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 I think Isiah Hodgins and Wyatt Teller had solid seasons Quote
PBF81 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Need more than Diggs and Josh This is a perennial 5-12/6-11 team without Allen who shoulders more than any player in the history of the game. 2 1 1 Quote
peterpan Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Part of draft I do believe is coaching. I’m not sure Allen is as good as he is without Daboll. we saw him regress this year with his Footwork and pocket presence with Daboll gone. also another point I’d like to make - TRADE YOUR DRAFT PICKS. We got Diggs with a trade. Dolphin got hill with a trade. SF got mccaffrey in a trade. We had no safety’s before the trade deadline - no trade for one. We finished the game with #4 at Safety. I have to use his jersey number because I don’t know the name of our 5th string FS. Quote
DCOrange Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, HappyDays said: With Von Miller coming back and Rousseau in his 3rd season I don't see DL as a big need. They could use to add a DT in the 3rd round or later but they're pretty much set on the DL until 2024. We were down our two best DL today. That's just unlucky, not a reason to panic. WR, OG, OT, safety, in that order are all bigger needs. The defense overall does not need a lot of investment this offseason. Put all of our available resources into the offense. We have no idea what version of Von we’re getting next season and Rousseau hasn’t shown much reason to believe he can be our best pass rusher either. Don’t get me wrong, I want us to prioritize WR and OLine, but DL is still very much a serious need IMO. Quote
Nitro Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, HappyDays said: Eh this is the 3rd offseason in a row I'm going into it wondering if Oliver will finally put a complete season together next year. He's been mostly invisible since after Thanksgiving. This is where someone will mention his pectoral injury as an excuse but like Josh Allen said some players figure it out and some players get figured out. Still waiting for Oliver to figure it out. He's here next year no matter what and we can live with him as our starter but I'm not planning my future around him. If we have to push salary into 2024/2025 in order to make a splash move for an offensive player and that means we ultimately let Oliver walk I won't lose any sleep over that. AS an undersized DT he needs a space eating DT next to him. That is where a problem may have popped up with injuries to Daquan Jones and Jordan Phillips. Quote
Shanahan's Horseshoe Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I don’t know how you can defend his track record at this point. I think he’s a great person personally but he’s got a generational talent at QB who’s legs have a limited shelf life. 4 straight years of non impact role players is just gonna waste another golden opportunity for the Bills. Quote
Chicken Boo Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 12 hours ago, DCOrange said: I say it half jokingly, but seriously, how many needs do we have that you’d rank ahead of the DL? There’s a few for sure but DL remains a major need for us unfortunately. We just can’t get it right. They're not great, but I'm willing to let them suffer for a season. O-line, WR and RB. Should have pulled the trigger on McCaffrey. Quote
Milanos Milano Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, ngbills said: Keep going all the way back to 2000. It’s insane how badly we have drafted for decades. There are hardly any elite stars during this stretch. Without Allen and Diggs, we would be in major trouble. Quote
Einstein Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) I know the Pro Bowl is nonsense, but that’s still remarkable. I don’t think we even went 4 years without drafting a Pro-Bowler during the drought, did we? Edited January 24, 2023 by Einstein Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Take away Josh Allen, and mediocre would be a compliment. He has been awful drafting the last few years and now it is catching up to them and hurting the team. It looked like a college game yesterday with the difference in talent on the field. I dont look for it to change either, not with this Defensive regime 15 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said: That same year they drafted Edmunds and Allen who have made the pro bowl. Saying teller is the most recent is like a twin arguing he is older than his brother by one minute. they have players but no superstars since. But it is also true the bills have the highest percentage of draft picks on the team in recent years. That would be an impressive stat, if most of them didn't stink Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 I think part of it is drafting players for a stale non-aggressive defensive system, part lack of opportunity due to a quality roster, and part just missing on guys. Quote
Chaos Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 The real question: Is Beane still a wizard? https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/search/?q=wizard beane&quick=1 Quote
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