Shanahan's Horseshoe Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 5:12 AM, WyoAZBillfan said: Your in the part of thinking every first/second rounder is immediate starter, all star. Statistically speaking how does that work? I guess players like mayfield, Darnold and Rosen are all playing next week? How about Chase (DC), the lions, giants and my favorite Kyle Pitts. Wilson, Jones, Lance? The WR for Atalanta or rock solid Sauce. All those teams still in it due to their play and coaches?🤷🏼♂️ dig deep enough and you can find the flaws in every single player in the NFL, the coaches and owners. At the end of the day how many were still in it before last week? Expand My expectation isn’t to have every player hit. I’m we’ll aware that there are busts on every team. Not drafting a single pro bowler or elite player in 4 years is not acceptable. There are plenty of rookies that start. If AJ or Boogie were good picks we wouldn’t have go blow out our cap to sign Von. Do you see how those two misses not only efect games like today but negatively impact next year as well? Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Beane needs to draft a big, sloppy, angry DT. Forgot slim DL. We need maulers who can play physical 1 1 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 12:11 AM, DCOrange said: The two positions we’ve invested in the most the last few years is DL and RB and well…we may need to invest in DL some more. Expand Yep. And any investment at all in RB is really just dumb. Three out of four seasons, investing at RB is criminal. 1 Quote
BFLO Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 12:11 AM, DCOrange said: The two positions we’ve invested in the most the last few years is DL and RB and well…we may need to invest in DL some more. Expand I think we’re at the point where we need to acknowledge that McBeane are terrible at evaluating DL talent. Star Lotulelei, Vernon Butler, Mario Addison, Quinton Jefferson, Ed Oliver, Harrison Phillips, Jordan Phillips, Tim Settle, Greg Rousseau, AJ Epenesa, Boogie Basham, Shaq Lawson, and DaQuan Jones. 1 2 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 12:18 AM, DCOrange said: I don’t want to but it remains probably our #2 or #3 biggest need. It’s just sad. Expand It was before Beane's time running the draft but man, TJ Watt was on the board when we selected White in 2017. Quote
WyoAZBillfan Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 5:23 AM, Shanahan's Horseshoe said: My expectation isn’t to have every player hit. I’m we’ll aware that there are busts on every team. Not drafting a single pro bowler or elite player in 4 years is not acceptable. There are plenty of rookies that start. If AJ or Boogie were good picks we wouldn’t have go blow out our cap to sign Von. Do you see how those two misses not only efect games like today but negatively impact next year as well? Expand White, Milano, Dawkins, Allen (Diggs) are pro bowlers. Personally I don’t see many out of the Covid draft classes as all stars and certainly not those two, not sure steam wouldn’t jump at signing Von regardless (a tried). Also there are players I’d have loved the Bills to take in place of the two named, as well as Elam, Cook, Edmonds and even White. 🤷🏼♂️ A few shoes I should keep my day job and the others, well I should keep my day job cause capital taken to get wouldn’t justify the moves. Pro bowl is a popularity contest anyways. Give me the unsung hero who plays his guts out to get the W, as noted earlier Pacheco or even the D lineman Buffalo stole a few wells back kings-something lol the Jason Peters of the world have more value. Brock Purdy looks decent enough if given an opportunity. Quote
Shanahan's Horseshoe Posted January 23, 2023 Author Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 5:38 AM, WyoAZBillfan said: White, Milano, Dawkins, Allen (Diggs) are pro bowlers. Personally I don’t see many out of the Covid draft classes as all stars and certainly not those two, not sure steam wouldn’t jump at signing Von regardless (a tried). Also there are players I’d have loved the Bills to take in place of the two named, as well as Elam, Cook, Edmonds and even White. 🤷🏼♂️ A few shoes I should keep my day job and the others, well I should keep my day job cause capital taken to get wouldn’t justify the moves. Pro bowl is a popularity contest anyways. Give me the unsung hero who plays his guts out to get the W, as noted earlier Pacheco or even the D lineman Buffalo stole a few wells back kings-something lol the Jason Peters of the world have more value. Brock Purdy looks decent enough if given an opportunity. Expand I clearly said in the last 4 years. I started the thread saying the same. You sound drunk. This is pointless LOL Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Worst part is they draft linemen and the first words out of Beanes mouth are that they need to slim down. Stop starving our lineman! Edited January 23, 2023 by TheFunPolice Quote
Milanos Milano Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 3:57 AM, Thrivefourfive said: What gets me is all these other teams who hit on absolute play makers within two years in the league. We NEVER get those. Expand Yep, when was the last time we drafted an elite player outside of Allen? Tre White? Before that Lynch? Our drafts have sucked. Maybe we can draft some more Cody Fords, Kolby Listenbees, TJ Grahams, and Aaron Maybins. Quote
ngbills Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) On 1/23/2023 at 3:22 AM, WyoAZBillfan said: Which others are you referring? Please elaborate. 49’s with Mr irrelevant and a horde of firsts? Eagles? KC? Do tell. Expand Two or more were big contributors for cin today. Kc has karlaftis, Pacheco, Moore, mcduffie i could go on Edited January 23, 2023 by ngbills 1 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 5:26 AM, TheFunPolice said: Beane needs to draft a big, sloppy, angry DT. Forgot slim DL. We need maulers who can play physical Expand I will absolutely vomit if anything Defense is taken within the first 4 rounds. Quote
CookieG Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 4:52 AM, Nitro said: Lindstrom OG was taken 14 and Bradberry C at 18. Lindstrom finally made a pro bowl this year and Bradberry did not get his option picked up. Taking Oliver up grade the interior D line with Star, Harrison Phillips and Jordan Phillips. Oliver is a keeper IMO McD is slow to use young guys. Only way to learn is through play and they will make mistakes. Expand Im sure Utica Club meant interior defensive linemen. Christian Wilkins, Dexter Lawrence and Jeffery Simmons were all taken in the 1st, after Oliver. Quote
pigpen65 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Epenessa sucks. Such a huge disappointment Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 12:13 AM, Einstein said: I mentioned this another thread too, but Beane has done a solid job of stocking the team with “good” players. But very very very few “elite” players. We have no Bosa’s, or Watts, or Chris Jones etc. And he doesn’t seem to want to give up draft assets to acquire an elite asset like McAffrey. Expand Exactly, not trading for mccaffery was a huge mistake. Trying to be competitive every year is pointless if you never win the Superbowl. Id rather load up and win then rebuild with higher draft picks . Dont want to be 12-5 forever and get bounced every year like the bucs did. Quote
QCity Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 6:43 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said: Exactly, not trading for mccaffery was a huge mistake. Expand We already have 2 pass catching RBs that we don't utilize in the passing game. You wanted 3? 1 Quote
pigpen65 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 6:53 AM, QCity said: We already have 2 pass catching RBs that we don't utilize in the passing game. You wanted 3? Expand Dorsey threw 42 times and handed the ball to the back 11 times. Thank God they didn't trade for McCaffrey 1 Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 6:53 AM, QCity said: We already have 2 pass catching RBs that we don't utilize in the passing game. You wanted 3? Expand You have a point ,but if used properly he is dynamic as is evident since he joined the Niners who i think will be in the Superbowl Quote
John from Riverside Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 So I just wanna point out that the fact that being drafted a franchise QB negates all of that, even if all he did was draft a franchise QB, and a bunch of good players not great once Do you know how I know this because we just went 13 and 3 Quote
Dr.Sack Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 If they aren’t fixing the DL or OL by getting younger what are they thinking in 2023? QB needs time to throw, and weapons to throw to. Better the OL easier it is to run. Remaining teams all have top 10 OLs as ranked by PFF. Quote
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