I’m over this defensive scheme. Bring in a new DC.

[stevestojan]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why does everyone have to get fired when you lose in the playoffs?

It’s not the first time. 

[buffalobillswin]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why does everyone have to get fired when you lose in the playoffs?

The losses the last two years have been embarrassing. 
 

Like when the packers fired their special teams coach after the 49ers blocked two punts last year. Sometimes the game forces your hand. 

[Einstein]

I’ve resisted this idea for a long time. I’ve ignored these “fire frazier” posts for a long time.

 

But I’m now on board.

 

WAY too many miscommunications, wide open guys, timeouts needing to be taken on defense, methodical drives, etc.

[foreboding]

Our guys didn't cover, our lines didn't get a push. Seems to me we need some new players.

[Chaos]

1 minute ago, Lagoon Blues said:

Is it really Leslies D?  How much of it is Seans and Leslie is running it?  Not sarcasm truly asking...

I think this is the issue. How do you change the defense with McDermott as head coach.  That is supposed to be his forte.  McDermott takes no ownerhsip of the offense, and lets face it, he is not a top tier game day coach.  So if he hires a DC with free reign, what is the purpose of McDermott being here. 

[jkeerie]

8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I recognize Frazier garners respect as a top tier DC and even possible HC candidate.  And in a lot ways it’s deserved.  But, I’m over his defense.  
 

I’ve been over it since last year, he then started to win me back holding together the D through so many injuries.  But last week and this week showed his defense is a liability come playoff time, just like it’s always been in every playoff exit we have had.
 

More importantly, his entire defensive scheme is as a DISADVANTAGE in bad weather.  Offense already has an advantage in bad weather because they know where they are going on each play.  Defenders have to play off a little more in bad weather, and that just completely disrupts our defensive scheme and gives opponents wide open targets to just pick apart Fraziers D.

 

They won’t fire McD after what this team went through this year, but I hop we make a change at DC.

 

NOTE:  Also hope we see Dorsey leave so we can get a more seasoned and creative OC in here.  No way they fire him, but hope he gets the Carolina job. 
 

Sadly I doubt either gets a HC job and doubt either gets fired.  

I think I finally have to agree.  We need a more aggressive defense and that's not what Frazier coaches.

 

I also was not impressed with Dorsey.  It seems our offense worked in spite of him, not because of him.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

The problem is other team's D might not play as well during the season but steps up in the postseason while ours plays well during the year but then comes up small in the postseason.

We seem to play soft schematically in the playoffs or vs anyone that threatens the defense.

 

That is definitely coaching philosophy. I don’t think Frazier should get all the blame. Most of it has to fall on McDermott. I do think we need to see changes on defense because this system isn’t good enough. We can’t trust Von Miller to be healthy and save them. I haven’t seen anything in our young pass rushers to believe they can become difference makers. Rousseau with Von Miller was different. Once teams focused on him he was nothing:

 

They might need to invest in pass rush help again this offseason if they stick with the scheme.

Edited January 22, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[DuckyBoys]

I think a shakeup in coaching at least give you hope  Were not winning anything with a undersized soft defense and this O line.  Least Frazier gone would mean we might see game specific defense  Its the same thing every week no matter what team they play  Brandon Beane better hit some hrs as well

[Bermuda Triangle]

I hate that it came to this, but glad that others are seeing the light.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

It’s not the first time. 

Sean Payton has lost many times in the playoffs. Andy Reid as well.

[BrooklynBills]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They don’t matchup well vs Cincinnati without Von Miller. Soft coverage and zero pass rush vs those WRs it was easy to see the mismatch.

 

They’ve missed on DL draft picks and it cost them.

 

Ball coming out so quick, Von Miller wasn't the factor today.

[Chugga]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why does everyone have to get fired when you lose in the playoffs?

Because you continually lose for the same reasons

[LeGOATski]

I agree that Frazier's time is done. Dorsey, as a first time coordinator can build upon this. But Frazier has hit the ceiling.

[Dan]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why does everyone have to get fired when you lose in the playoffs?

Because this was a complete beat down and complete domination.  I would also argue...  our season has ended each year in the playoffs... because the defense plays soft and comes up small in these games... maybe not in KC in 2020... but in Houston, KC last year, today. The defense is completely out schemed, out played and exposed.   
 

You cant keep coming back to the same well and hope you finally get lucky. Do something and find a way to get over the hump. 

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We seem to play soft schematically in the playoffs or vs anyone that threatens the defense.

 

That is definitely coaching philosophy. I don’t think Frazier should get all the blame. Most of it has to fall on McDermott. I do think we need to see changes on defense because this system isn’t good enough. We can’t trust Von Miller to be healthy and save them. I haven’t seen anything in our young pass rushers to believe they can become difference makers. Rousseau with Von Miller was different. Once teams focused on him he was nothing:

 

They might need to invest in pass rush help again this offseason if they stick with the scheme.

 

Agreed...schematically they allow too much to try and take something away and against really good teams in the playoffs it's able to be exposed too frequently.

[Steptide]

Whatever the defensive game plan was today, was absolutely horrendous

[Big Turk]

Just now, BrooklynBills said:

 

Ball coming out so quick, Von Miller wasn't the factor today.

 

DaQuan would have helped a lot on the runs to set up 3rd and longers but with how soft they played coverage wise it wouldn't have likely mattered.

[HomeskillitMoorman]

13 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I recognize Frazier garners respect as a top tier DC and even possible HC candidate.  And in a lot ways it’s deserved.  But, I’m over his defense.  
 

I’ve been over it since last year, he then started to win me back holding together the D through so many injuries.  But last week and this week showed his defense is a liability come playoff time, just like it’s always been in every playoff exit we have had.
 

More importantly, his entire defensive scheme is as a DISADVANTAGE in bad weather.  Offense already has an advantage in bad weather because they know where they are going on each play.  Defenders have to play off a little more in bad weather, and that just completely disrupts our defensive scheme and gives opponents wide open targets to just pick apart Fraziers D.

 

They won’t fire McD after what this team went through this year, but I hop we make a change at DC.

 

NOTE:  Also hope we see Dorsey leave so we can get a more seasoned and creative OC in here.  No way they fire him, but hope he gets the Carolina job. 
 

Sadly I doubt either gets a HC job and doubt either gets fired.  

McD is the problem. He is pure, unadulterated trash that chokes and gets outcoached every single postseason. 

Frazier doesn’t decide our scheme against McD’s will. He’s an extension of him. 
 

Bringing them all back is waving the white flag on the future. 

[RoscoeParrish]

10 points on offense was the story

[Chaos]

Just now, RoscoeParrish said:

10 points on offense was the story

14-0 hole from the defense, and the HC coach being forced to punt at the end of the first half because of the sucky defense is the full story.