Bengals @ Bills - Post Game Thread - January 22, 2023 - NFL Divisional Round Playoffs

[Process]

I'm sad.

[Green Lightning]

36 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Yes they did because we have not focused on the O line and skill players.  I live in Cincinnati and they have pushed more resources to their offense then they have their defense.  The game was lost today in the 1st quarter when the Bengals OFFENSE had two 75 yard plus TD drives to go up 14 - 0.  The rest of the game was window dressing.

 

 

And our Defense was pathetic. Burrow had all day to throw. Gotta have both.

[Maine-iac]

2 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:

He wouldn’t look half as good running behind our line or the crappy running blocking schemes we employ…

So many people implying we can't run the ball.  We can and did run the ball in any or every game we TRIED to run.  You can't run the ball 3 or 4 times and call that a failed running game.  It's not the OL or the RB's.   I'm not calling the OL or RB's all stars but we don't have rushing numbers because we don't run the ball.  We are predictable and Allen gets hit a lot because we pass a lot and everyone knows where to find him.  The only reason we score as much as we do is because teams can't stop him altogether but we only do two things, throw deep or throw for 8 to 10.  In any given half you could count the runs or short throws on one hand.

[PayDaBill$]

3 minutes ago, buffalobillswin said:

Two things we should all agree on

 

1. The Bengals would have kicked our asses in week 17

2. The Dolphins would have won last week with a healthy Tua

This is 1000% true and to disagree is being blinded by loyalty or completely dishonest with yourself.

[78thealltimegreat]

3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I hope it does because the stats on this defense is fools gold. This defense can't stop a playoff offense. 

I’ll tell you what this defense gets inflated numbers on backup QBs and bad offenses. All the money they stuck on the defensive side of the ball and every big game when they need a stop they don’t get it 

[CincyBillsFan]

Just now, Green Lightning said:

And our Defense was pathetic. Burrow had all day to throw. Gotta have both.

I don't disagree but IMO the biggest issue with the defense is the coaching and scheme while the biggest issue with the offense are the lack of above average players complementing Diggs & Allen.

 

 

[Dan in Owego]

How many elite defensive players do the bengals have? Got to support Josh however we can, weapons, line, system whatever it takes to help him.

[somnus00]

2 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

This is unexcusable.  Not even considering we have one of the best qbs to ever play football.  Coaching needs to address the Offense heavy in the draft or they should be on the hot seat.  They obviously can not evaluate the DL well.  We should have the #1 DL in the league based off our draft capital and FA contracts spent.  They are somehow garbage.  Stop with it.  Just stop with the Defensive draft and FA signings.  It has absolutely failed to this point

Coach Washington has done nothing to develop the d line.

[newcam2012]

4 minutes ago, buffalobillswin said:

Two things we should all agree on

 

1. The Bengals would have kicked our asses in week 17

2. The Dolphins would have won last week with a healthy Tua

Two absolutes here. The Bengals gave us a little taste of what was to come in that Monday night game. They must have been salivating to beat down the Bills. They are a much better team rhan the Bills. Next year the Bills will have their hands full in the division. I think the window for this team is closing fast. 

[Heels20X6]

16 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

In order to really turn this defense around you’d need to find a former HC that is looking for a way back. A defensive specialist like we had with Schwartz. The problem is our HC is a former DC and this guy is going to want to keep the thing looking a certain way. I want an overhaul of the Defensive philosophy from top to bottom and I want Fraizer gone tomorrow 

Give me Frank Reich as OC and Vic Fangio as DC then!

[BillzFreak]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I hope it does because the stats on this defense is fools gold. This defense can't stop a playoff offense. 

It's Frasiers mindset and it's bad. He plays his defense scared. We don't throw anything exotic out there for a team to even consider a problem. We can have the best defense in the league for all we know but he plays so timid it's frustrating. So scared to get beat deep he rather let Burrow take all the easy throws which he can make 99% of the time instead of trying different looks to at least make him put a ball over the top which is harder to do in the weather we had today. 

[Iverwig]

🤔 Milano says the team lacked energy. SMH 

[CincyBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Dan in Owego said:

How many elite defensive players do the bengals have? Got to support Josh however we can, weapons, line, system whatever it takes to help him.

Bingo.  The Bengals went out and signed one big time defender the last 2 years while they threw all sorts of money and draft capital at offensive linemen and skill players. 

 

As fans we are deluding ourselves if we think anything less then a 180 degree turn around won't stem the decline that will see us barely win half our games next season.  The answer is simple:  fire Frazier and replace him with a DC that understands that defense is 2nd to the offense and throw all available money and draft capital at the offense.

 

 

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

2 minutes ago, Heels20X6 said:

Give me Frank Reich as OC and Vic Fangio as DC then!

I’d take Vic Fangio before we go to bed tonight. Unfortunately won’t happen and it will be more wasted time with Fraizer 

[CincyBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, BillzFreak said:

It's Frasiers mindset and it's bad. He plays his defense scared. We don't throw anything exotic out there for a team to even consider a problem. We can have the best defense in the league for all we know but he plays so timid it's frustrating. So scared to get beat deep he rather let Burrow take all the easy throws which he can make 99% of the time instead of trying different looks to at least make him put a ball over the top which is harder to do in the weather we had today. 

I like the way KC plays defense.  Sure they get beat on big plays and at times teams go up and down the field on them but their theory seems to be that we're going to play aggressive and take chances which will create a TO and a couple of 3 and outs that our offense will feast on. And if we do get into a shoot out we have the best shoot out offense in the NFL.

 

 

 

 

[BuffaloBaumer]

Oddly enough, I am less upset about this loss than I have been over any other regular season loss over the last two years. They just played that badly and it made me realize that they would’ve had no chance going any further anyway.

[Meatloaf63]

8 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

So many people implying we can't run the ball.  We can and did run the ball in any or every game we TRIED to run.  You can't run the ball 3 or 4 times and call that a failed running game.  It's not the OL or the RB's.   I'm not calling the OL or RB's all stars but we don't have rushing numbers because we don't run the ball.  We are predictable and Allen gets hit a lot because we pass a lot and everyone knows where to find him.  The only reason we score as much as we do is because teams can't stop him altogether but we only do two things, throw deep or throw for 8 to 10.  In any given half you could count the runs or short throws on one hand.

There were games we were able to run, but you are probably right, we don’t commit to truly establishing the run. So knowing that would we have changed our philosophy for one player? Who knows???

[Big Turk]

4 minutes ago, Iverwig said:

🤔 Milano says the team lacked energy. SMH 

 

Exactly what I said. They were emotionally and mentally spent. That manifests physically last, but when it does it looks like an all out collapse.

 

Allen echoed it saying "We just didn't have it today"

[Best Williams Available]

19 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

I just don't see a good outcome with it.  I think we failed on the DL and it will negatively effect us on both ends.  Coaching and Talent

Maybe these guys are studs (some of em like Oliver and Groot) in a similar but different scheme? We get rid of 3-4 other pieces and trade for young equivalents that better fit the new scheme. I’m not an X and O guy but it’s not an impossibility. All I know is we spent a lot on DL with no impact.

[Dan in Owego]

2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Bingo.  The Bengals went out and signed one big time defender the last 2 years while they threw all sorts of money and draft capital at offensive linemen and skill players. 

 

As fans we are deluding ourselves if we think anything less then a 180 degree turn around won't stem the decline that will see us barely win half our games next season.  The answer is simple:  fire Frazier and replace him with a DC that understands that defense is 2nd to the offense and throw all available money and draft capital at the offense.

 

 

 

Exactly we have been gifted Josh Allen, he is the franchise every move we make must be about helping him.