DapperCam Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 I think in our first KC matchup last year they put Tre White on him 1-on-1 all game and it worked okay. Maybe they will try that again. White missed our last two matchups vs them. 1 Quote
K D Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 Chargers should have won. They are pretty good at locking down Kelce. They put Derwin James on him man to man and hit him at the line so he can't get a clean release. Unlike the Bills who play zone 10 yards off and leave him wide open 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 Kelce is a top 3 TE in history at his peak. He may very well be the best ever. The only way to stop elite TEs is with cornerbacks. They are too fast for linebackers and safeties especially if they lie up off the LOS. Kelce and Knox are bigger than every player on the defense. There is no size matchup that you can win and if you try to match size all you do is lose speed. Match him with a corner that can run with him. That's the only way to slow him down. I'd play White or Elam man to man on him the entire game and have safety help over the top. Play zone coverage everywhere else. 4 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 The Bills definitely did NOT seek to absolutely shut down Kelce earlier this season, at least not the overt Belichick way (physical jam at the line, every play, plus double coverage), yet won nonetheless. In fact, didn't Kelce have over 100 yards in that game against us? 1 Quote
AlfaBill Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 29 minutes ago, mannc said: Do you really not know how to spell Mahomes, after all this time? Perhaps he doesn’t give a shite to spell it correctly. I known I don’t. 😀 1 Quote
BigDingus Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 This is why it's so obnoxious when I see Chiefs fans saying stuff like "Mahomes threw for over 5,000 yards & look at the receivers he has to throw to: 1. JuJu, 2. Valdes-Scantling, 3. Watson, 4. Hardman!" Uh huh... ok guys. Nobody's buying that since we all know he has the best pass catching TE of all time out there getting 90-100 receptions a season 🙄 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: The Bills definitely did NOT seek to absolutely shut down Kelce earlier this season, at least not the overt Belichick way (physical jam at the line, every play, plus double coverage), yet won nonetheless. In fact, didn't Kelce have over 100 yards in that game against us? Think you are thinking about the two playoff losses Quote
Real McClappy Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) Kelce is basically Dawson Knox with Cole Beasley's brain. Edited January 22, 2023 by Real McNasty 1 2 1 Quote
boyst Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Real McNasty said: Kelce is basically Dawson Know with Cole Beasley's brain. Eminem is basically Cole Beasley with Kanye's brain. 5 1 Quote
Livinginthepast Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, boyst said: Eminem is basically Cole Beasley with Kanye's brain. Kanye is basically doctor Dre with brain damage 5 1 Quote
jayg Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 53 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Dorsey needs to shamelessly steal every one of Andy Reid's designed Kelce plays and put them in his playbook. I would steal "plays that work" from other teams all the time. You don't always need to be the smartest guy or reinvent the wheel every game. 1 Quote
RocCityRoller Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) Watched a few of the <many catches> Kelce had. All were against zone. Kelce is very very good at exploiting zone coverage, and Mahomes trusts Kelce to see the same soft spots in the zone he does. Not once did anyone try bump and run vs him (jamming within 5 yards) or cover him 1:1 with a large CB/S/fast LB. Teams did that with Gronk to break up the rhythm between Brady and him to mixed success. Kelce always had a clean release, unless he was blocking and runs to open spots in the zone. Even if he is blocking he knows when to release and where to run. Edited January 22, 2023 by RocCityRoller 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Think you are thinking about the two playoff losses Kelce went 8-for-108 in the game THIS season. And yet it didn't swing the result; probably in part because Kelce was kept out of the endzone? Quote
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, mannc said: Do you really not know how to spell Mahomes, after all this time? Yes, K-E-R-M-I-T! 1 2 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Richard Noggin said: Kelce went 8-for-108 in the game THIS season. And yet it didn't swing the result; probably in part because Kelce was kept out of the endzone? Ok… i checked the numbers myself on the playoff games and he caught like 118 and 96… He played huge today so he might be in peak form at the moment Quote
Richard Noggin Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, jayg said: I would steal "plays that work" from other teams all the time. You don't always need to be the smartest guy or reinvent the wheel every game. Over the years, Andy Reid has spent some serious offseason time studying (and stealing from) college offensive coaches he admires; that guy never stops innovating, which, ironically, often involves imitating. A quick google search by someone less lazy than me would provide specifics. But no one can deny that Reid's offenses have been progressive in their adoption of college schemes including spread concepts, RPOs, etc. The perfect coach for Mahomes, to be honest. 2 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 What I don’t get is how open he always is in the red zone. 2 Quote
Livinginthepast Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: What I don’t get is how open he always is in the red zone. Ive always wondered this. Way less room for everyone yet Kelce is open by a few yards and nobody seems to notice. Hes not invincible but a lot of coaches in the NFL are just too dumb to come up with something innovative to stop him. I suggest full on cheating as much as you can get away with otherwise its business as usual. 1 Quote
BillsGuyOutWest Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) Milano’s frighteningly veiny arms are the last thing Kelce’s ribs are going to see before they explode and join Mike White’s in Valhalla. Edited January 22, 2023 by BillsGuyOutWest Quote
boyst Posted January 22, 2023 Posted January 22, 2023 32 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Kanye is basically doctor Dre with brain damage Dr Dre is basically Dr Pepper with only 4 of the 7 ingredients. 1 3 Quote
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