Beck Water Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Looks like a very lame bid by TB/Arians to maintain status quo and Bowles, and convince Brady to come back. I think Brady tells them this week he will not come back with Bowles there as HC. Not sure what happens next. Who wants to see the Bucs go 3-14 next year with Bowles HC and a Wentz/Darnold level qb. What's Arians got to do with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: Looks like a very lame bid by TB/Arians to maintain status quo and Bowles, and convince Brady to come back. I think Brady tells them this week he will not come back with Bowles there as HC. Not sure what happens next. Who wants to see the Bucs go 3-14 next year with Bowles HC and a Wentz/Darnold level qb. Sign me up... the champa bay moniker has gone suddenly silent here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 52 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: This is very stupid, the Bucs problem was an Online that lost their guards in the off-season and got massively banged up to the rest of the starters. That’s not something you can control for and no amount of play calling will make up for that. Just looking for someone to blame. Had Jensen not gotten hurt and the rest of the Oline stayed reasonably healthy the Bucs probably would have been a much better offense and won at least 2-3 more games. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I've liked him for a while. He has good vision when seeing the field to coach. He and Dorsey have been two coaches I've been following. I'd like leftwiich here. With Dorsey it'd be a great combo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: https://bucswire.usatoday.com/2023/01/19/nfl-news-tampa-bay-buccaneers-byron-leftwich-fired/ Can't blame Teflon™ T*m. 10 minutes ago, boyst said: I've liked him for a while. He has good vision when seeing the field to coach. He and Dorsey have been two coaches I've been following. I'd like leftwiich here. With Dorsey it'd be a great combo I think he would make a good offensive assistant. Sign him now and he can continue in playoffs. 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: This is very stupid, the Bucs problem was an Online that lost their guards in the off-season and got massively banged up to the rest of the starters. That’s not something you can control for and no amount of play calling will make up for that. Just looking for someone to blame. Had Jensen not gotten hurt and the rest of the Oline stayed reasonably healthy the Bucs probably would have been a much better offense and won at least 2-3 more games. Well if QB is mobile there are ways to help it but hard when QB is eligible for Social Security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Can't blame Teflon™ T*m. I think he would make a good offensive assistant. Sign him now and he can continue in playoffs. I would 100% do that. I am surprised teams don't do short term contracts for the playoffs. An NFC coach for the super bowl... Against an opponent they just played? Is sign him for $200k just to come look at tape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, Beck Water said: What's Arians got to do with it? I agree. He was kicked upstairs to satisfy T*m. 1 minute ago, boyst said: I would 100% do that. I am surprised teams don't do short term contracts for the playoffs. An NFC coach for the super bowl... Against an opponent they just played? Is sign him for $200k just to come look at tape The Pegulas have never been cheap. It is a good way for Bills and him to see if they mesh well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Limeaid said: I agree. He was kicked upstairs to satisfy T*m. The Pegulas have never been cheap. It is a good way for Bills and him to see if they mesh well. ... But it will never Happen. Football isn't forward thinking like that. Also if Dorsey left he'd be ready to jump in already evaluated Edited January 19, 2023 by boyst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Rank in Pts for TB 2022 25th 2021 2nd 2020 3rd 2019 3rd (pre Brady) Truly had to be a case of what have you done lately, it can't possibly be anything other than the OC, and fall on sword we sucked this year. Meanwhile, the players are old, slow, injured and Brady is fast fading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, H2o said: Leftwich should have been made the HC last offseason and now they fire him as OC. Tampa will quickly flush back down into the bowl of anonymity. Well , having followed Leftwich from Marshall to Jax , he was overrated as a qb and it shows he depended on TB for success as an OC. TB was not as good and it’s not some mystery that Leftwich can’t sustain success? Belicheck dropped off without TB as well. Leftwich is not some great communicator ; he needs experience and polish before he can lead a franchise. It took years fir Daboll to be prepared and Leftwich and Dorsey should pay attention to that. Why be in a hurry to get a position few hold onto for more than a couple of years ; wait to optimize your limited chances of. success. Reputations are hard to repair , if ever, and it takes great change. Leftwich has plenty of time to get to be a head coach. Ask McDaniels who still is struggling with the raiders and he is running out of opportunities. Chose your path carefully as you have limited chances to be seen as a success and it’s much easier to fail. Daboll did it right and look at his chance to stick with the Giants; his maturity and the Giants success is no coincidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Charles Romes said: Looks like a very lame bid by TB/Arians to maintain status quo and Bowles, and convince Brady to come back. I think Brady tells them this week he will not come back with Bowles there as HC. Not sure what happens next. Who wants to see the Bucs go 3-14 next year with Bowles HC and a Wentz/Darnold level qb. If I were Tampa and Brady isn’t coming back I would just blow the whole thing up. Trade Evans and Godwin for a lot of draft picks and tank 2023. You got a Super Bowl in 2020 and a really good run to defend the title in 2021 but in 2022 Oline issues and age caught up with them. Now they are in a position where without a vet QB they are better off getting what they can for the older players that can still go like Evans and Godwin and build to the 2024 draft where they can go after a young QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Echoing everyone else’s sentiments, I don’t think Leftwich was the problem. He will be a good get for some team as OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Leading candidate to replace Leftwich. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Utah John Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 As far as a potential replacement for Dorsey, if Dorsey gets a HC job somewhere, the only real problem with Leftwich is that he'll probably be hired away in a year too. The good side of that of course is the extra 3rd rounder the Bills would get for losing a black coordinator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I’d hire him if our OC opens up or even have him as QB coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: What's Arians got to do with it? Just a second hand emotion? 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 5 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: Fired the wrong coach. Bowles is a failure as a head coach and will likely be on the outs after next year. He honestly should have gotten the axe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Wasn't Leftwich up for HC jobs after they won the super bowl? This really is a what have you done for me lately type league Not For Long (NFL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 8 hours ago, billsfan89 said: If I were Tampa and Brady isn’t coming back I would just blow the whole thing up. Trade Evans and Godwin for a lot of draft picks and tank 2023. You got a Super Bowl in 2020 and a really good run to defend the title in 2021 but in 2022 Oline issues and age caught up with them. Now they are in a position where without a vet QB they are better off getting what they can for the older players that can still go like Evans and Godwin and build to the 2024 draft where they can go after a young QB. I would agree. Blow it up. They stil have some good young defenders. You can always find WR's. Trade them for some assets and go get our next QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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