JoPo's message to Bills Mafia

[zow2]

It's gonna suck if he's wearing a Dolphins helmet next season.

[Man with No Name]

He is probably worth more to our defense, and maybe a couple others than anybody else. Losing him will be felt. Hope they can figure it out. Either way, he will always be royalty to this fan base. 

[Beck Water]

28 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Sounds like he already knows this is his last season here...

 

He's saying "could be" and "I don't know"

 

I'm personally on the 'Pay Poyer" train with my heart, but my head looks at the FA list plus the drafted players we need to work on signing, and shakes my head

If we weren't already committed to another year of Hyde, it would be different.

 

[eball]

Oh my god, the Poyer over Oliver takes in this thread are too much...

 

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, eball said:

Oh my god, the Poyer over Oliver takes in this thread are too much...

 

 

You haven't seen anything yet..

 

How about we trade Oliver for a 2nd and use that pick to draft Poyer's replacement?

[TheBeaneBandit]

1st let me say I hope they figure it out on how to keep him. But should we lose him I wonder if anyone who has a good year or two left in them would be more affordable. Definitely gonna be an interesting offseason.

[benderbender]

Relax. Edmunds is going to take such a hometown discount that we’ll have plenty left over to re-sign him. *wink* I mean, 😉.

[strive_for_five_guy]

Pull the upset on Saturday, Jacksonville!  I want an encore in Buffalo next week!

[TheFunPolice]

We're paying a lot of $$ to guys on defense who are invisible. 

 

Then there's Poyer, who is great at his role. Pay the man!

[MrEpsYtown]

Really tough evaluation. They are in a  tough spot here with Poyer and Edmunds coming up, as well as having some other issues on the roster. If I have to choose between Poyer and Hyde, I take Hyde (despite the fact that he has missed the entire season.) But Poyer is a warrior who belongs here and should finish his career here. 

 

He is underpaid, but he should not approach the Derwin James type contract. At the end of the day it is very much a buyer beware with him. A guy who did nothing before he got here and developed into a great player in a system he is tailor made for. Then consider age and injury history, I do not think free agency is going to be kind to him. 

 

His comp in terms of level of play and age etc is probably Tyrann Mathieu, who as a free agent last year signed a 3 year 28 million dollar deal, 9.5 per year. I think that is fair. I think the Bills let him test the market to see his value, with an eye on bringing him back. 

[Your Brown Eye]

Poor guy was always a victim of numbers. First it was "wait your time, you're next to get paid"...now it's "you're 32 and we can't pay you as the top safety in football"

 

You gotta feel for the guy, has done everything by the book and will likely have to look elsewhere to get paid like the top safety.

[GunnerBill]

48 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

He'll be 32 next year - which isn't a death sentence at the position.  I'd personally rather keep him than oliver.  

 

Disagree. Po has been great. One of my all time favourite Bills. But the bills defense is a different unit when Ed Oliver is playing well. If Po was 29 I'd be screaming for them to extend him (and indeed was when he was last due) but a team where the Bills are in their cycle can't commit big money to a 32 year old safety and Po deserves the chance maximise his money in FA. 

[BillyBilliams]

1 hour ago, GolfandBills said:

Bills got some tough decisions to make coming up.  I don’t envy Beane at all

 

For Edmunds and Poyer, they can definitely sign them.  They can convert salary into bonus money for players like Allen, Diggs, Knox, etc and free up cap space to sign these guys.  They already have an idea of what the cap would look like next year and maybe even the year after that, so they can forecast what it would look like.

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, Toomstone.Part.Duex said:

 

Patience my dear Rachel.... Patience!! 

[Charles Romes]

13-0 with Poyer this year 

[TheFunPolice]

if we can pay DL tons of money to play pattycake with the OL then we can pay Poyer to actually make plays

[MrEpsYtown]

25 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

1st let me say I hope they figure it out on how to keep him. But should we lose him I wonder if anyone who has a good year or two left in them would be more affordable. Definitely gonna be an interesting offseason.

 

I think you can go two routes, if you have to spend to keep Poyer I would probably just go after the big fish which is Jesse Bates. He's a great fit and would play well with Hyde. 

 

The other route is too look for undervalued FA corners (like Hyde and Poyer were) who could make an impact as a safety conversion. 

[Scott7975]

Im hoping they can come to terms on a reasonable couple year deal. This guy would probably get paid well in FA though so its unlikely unless he simply wants to be a Bill.

[Solomon Grundy]

5 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

 

For Edmunds and Poyer, they can definitely sign them.  They can convert salary into bonus money for players like Allen, Diggs, Knox, etc and free up cap space to sign these guys.  They already have an idea of what the cap would look like next year and maybe even the year after that, so they can forecast what it would look like.

I believe this will happen. This team is a brotherhood. 

[Back2Buff]

14 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said:

Poor guy was always a victim of numbers. First it was "wait your time, you're next to get paid"...now it's "you're 32 and we can't pay you as the top safety in football"

 

You gotta feel for the guy, has done everything by the book and will likely have to look elsewhere to get paid like the top safety.

 

He's been getting paid as a top safety for multiple years now.

 

After the first three games of the season, Poyer has been pretty average, maybe even below average.

 

Obviously the injures have hurt him, but I don't see those just disappearing.  Getting old stinks.

 

Last 10 games: 646, snaps, 37 solo tackles, 54 total tackles, 3 TFL, 0 QB hits, 0 INT, 2 pass defended