wakingfane Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Billz4ever said: I don't even know what that's supposed to mean. People think the Bengals will be in the Bills heads Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, QLBillsFan said: Same for Bengals.. Joe B is the darling over JA for some reason. So pressure on both. Actually think it’s good that Josh is getting a bit of negative from the media.. he’s fully aware of it. But he’s the guy who can fix it. I suspect you will see against the better opponents a more selective Josh. But can’t temper it too much, it’s part why he’s the best in the nfl when he’s on it. Think we see his best effort on Sunday 👍 Yes, such regression 😆 how can he function without BD. It’s gotten silly. The national media give wide brush assessments… Bills fans watch each snap of the entire season. Shady gives zero ***** west media says.. he knows Josh will Uber focus against better teams intuition essentially Nah....the media has been hyping Josh all season and the Bills have been more favored to win the SB over the Bengals all year. In fact, many said that the Bengals were a poor AFC SB representative last year and that the Bills would have handled the Rams. If the Bills bow out to the Bengals (who barely put away Huntley and the Ravens), that's a huge blow. 2 Quote
Billz4ever Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, wakingfane said: People think the Bengals will be in the Bills heads Not sure why the Bengals would be in the Bills heads. That incident affected their players too. 1 Quote
Yobogoya! Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Captain_Quint said: Boyd is elite??? He has 60 catches.... Good slot receiver, but I wouldn't call him elite. I would say that Taron Johnson is playing elite football the last 2 games. I meant to say Higgins not Boyd. Back to back 1000 yard seasons seems pretty elite to me for a no 2 receiver. Quote
ArtVandalay Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 Vegas like the Bills by 5.5... I'll take Vegas over ESPN any day of the week. Quote
Yobogoya! Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Pokebball said: While the mistakes you reference are accurate, only looking at the TOs is akin to only looking at the missed 3 pt shots in a basketball game. The Bills have a more aggressive game plan, a higher risk - a higher reward, philosophy. If one only looks at the higher risks (more TOs) and not the higher rewards (more TDs) they're missing half the equation. We're winning games; as many games as any team in the AFC. Perhaps the more aggressive play by Josh is working??? It’s not about whether our boom or bust offense is working or not— certainly this year it’s worked more often than it has not. But this thread is about the taking heads on ESPN picking the Bengals over the Bills. I’m just sayin I can’t fault anybody for going with a team that’s been taking care of the football and scoring with efficiency, even if their ceiling may not be as high as ours has been with the aggressive philosophy. I don’t think it’s any disrespect, they’re two good teams. Quote
Da webster guy Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 11 hours ago, Punch said: The older I get the more I realize the opinions of pundits are all warped by extreme recency bias. I can't enjoy it anymore because they think they see something in "the film" and then need to find a way to retroactively explain why it happened. What makes it even more infuriating is how it's all delivered in a snide, authoritative tone as though they're handing down cherished wisdom of the ages from the gods. Obviously, there is thoughtful and informed analysis but the vast majority of take givers are a waste. Its just like stock pickers or gamblers: in reality you have no clue, but you think you do because in many cases in the past you've been correct, which emboldens you to think you know better. A lot of those chumps were saying how Brady in playoff mode is gonna crush Dallas and how the Chargers were gonna whip the Jags. No clue. just flippin coins. Quote
QLBillsFan Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Nah....the media has been hyping Josh all season and the Bills have been more favored to win the SB over the Bengals all year. In fact, many said that the Bengals were a poor AFC SB representative last year and that the Bills would have handled the Rams. If the Bills bow out to the Bengals (who barely put away Huntley and the Ravens), that's a huge blow. I think if you listen to big national media Cowherd and many others in fact Burrow currently is preferred over Josh. You are correct on the flip flop. But to your point if Josh plays well they will remind you how they were in his corner to start the year. I agree if we lose to the Bengals or the Chiefs it’s a huge blow for sure. Because the Bills are us as fans have the SB as the expectation. Edited January 19, 2023 by QLBillsFan 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Success said: Every narrative I read now is "bumbling Allen." The Bills COULD win, but our many turnovers will result in a loss. Give me a break. He was perfect in the postseason last year. The team got all of their mistakes out of the way against Miami. I'm not usually one to be over-confident, but I don't think this one is particularly close, especially w/ Cincy's O-line situation. We're going to look like we did for some of those games in September & October. Yeah, it’s amazing how fast they turn. Allen had zero turnovers in the Redzone for like his first 3 years and came into this season with 1 career turnover in the Redzone. Now they act like Josh is atrocious because he had some hiccups in a season where we have a rookie OC, and first time ever Josh had a switch at OC. Then there were all the injuries, including to Josh’s elbow. Then there were the lack of consistent weapons outside of Diggs. Then there was all the off field stuff Buffalo went through all year. Like no one even wants to consider the larger body of work vs the context of this season. And we still won 13 games and our 3 losses were by a total of 8 points. Edited January 19, 2023 by Alphadawg7 2 Quote
Nextmanup Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 13 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I like it. Bills have no pressure at all then as the Bengals are now supposed to win easily. ...right, because everyone in the Bills organization is glued to ESPN, and their mindset is totally dictated by what talking meatheads on TV say about a given game. They should be feeling a TON of pressure...and that's because there's a lot there. Huge playoff game against a very solid team with a QB more or less as good as ours, and it's at home. I think we would play better on the road TBH. Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Yeah, it’s amazing how fast they turn. Allen had zero turnovers in the Redzone for like his first 3 years and came into this season with 1 career turnover in the Redzone. Now they act like Josh is atrocious because he had some hiccups in a season where we have a rookie OC, and first time ever Josh had a switch at OC. Then there were all the injuries, including to Josh’s elbow. Then there were the lack of consistent weapons outside of Diggs. Then there was all the off field stuff Buffalo went through all year. Like no one even wants to consider the larger body of work vs the context of this season. And we still won 13 games and our 3 losses were by a total of 8 points. They lost more games in 2021 than this year. He was worse then. Josh Allen 4th Quarter Comebacks/Winning Drives: 11 Fourth Quarter Comebacks, 15 Game-Winning Drives 2028: 3 2019: 5 2020: 3 2021: 0 2022: 4 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/comeback.cgi?player=AlleJo02 Just now, Nextmanup said: ...right, because everyone in the Bills organization is glued to ESPN, and their mindset is totally dictated by what talking meatheads on TV say about a given game. They should be feeling a TON of pressure...and that's because there's a lot there. Huge playoff game against a very solid team with a QB more or less as good as ours, and it's at home. I think we would play better on the road TBH. And it might snow a few inches... Quote
Since1981 Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 It’s Josh’s unpredictability and Burro’s predictability that has national media spooked. I can’t refute. Dorsey needs to settle Josh in between plays. Fins plan was clearly to force the boom-bust-Joshy out and it almost worked. 1 Quote
Seventeen Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 Beginning to despise the Get Up crew ... No only do they spend the majority of the telecast talking about the Cowboys but ... Today's panel was asked which QB they would pick tp start a franchise ( Allen or Burrow ) - all said Burrow. Then to add insult to injury, Damien Woody smashed the Bills helmet and picked the Bengals to win Sunday. 1 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted January 19, 2023 Author Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Seventeen said: Beginning to despise the Get Up crew ... No only do they spend the majority of the telecast talking about the Cowboys but ... Today's panel was asked which QB they would pick tp start a franchise ( Allen or Burrow ) - all said Burrow. Then to add insult to injury, Damien Woody smashed the Bills helmet and picked the Bengals to win Sunday. Hey I wasn’t kidding all their national personalities picked the Bengals. It’s almost like Josh is Jamarcus Russell and the Joe Burrow is Johnny Unitas. Somehow the Bengals who got destroyed by Tyler Huntley are the 85 Bears. If I were Buffalo I’d play that helmet smashing that clown just did on tv on a loop in the lockerroom especially going against 3 backup linemen. Edited January 19, 2023 by 78thealltimegreat 2 Quote
SCBills Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 For a QB who tagged along for the Super Bowl run on the backs of his defense and field goal kicker last year, Joe Burrow sure gets an absurd amount of love from the media. I guess it makes sense, when you see how he went off against the Ravens last week... oh, wait.... It seems, sometimes, that there is just a gut reaction to hold to a higher standard the guy who is bigger, faster and stronger than any other QB... jealousy, envy... I don't know.. but it's pretty evident at times. 1 1 Quote
Sharky7337 Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 From the athletic only 3 outta 9 took the bills. Quote
Seventeen Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Hey I wasn’t kidding all their national personalities picked the Bengals. It’s almost like Josh is Jamarcus Russell and the Joe Burrow is Johnny Unitas. Somehow the Bengals who got destroyed by Tyler Huntley are the 85 Bears. If I were Buffalo I’d play that helmet smashing that clown just did on tv on a loop in the lockerroom especially going against 3 backup linemen. TBH, I think they are looking at the previous game in Cinci where the Bengals were up 7-3 and driving as a precursor to Sunday's playoff game. They haven't said it but I would think they're guessing Burrow will have a field day throwing against our secondary. 3 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted January 19, 2023 Author Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Seventeen said: TBH, I think they are looking at the previous game in Cinci where the Bengals were up 7-3 and driving as a precursor to Sunday's playoff game. They haven't said it but I would think they're guessing Burrow will have a field day throwing against our secondary. And Tyler Huntley was literally pump faking using the term nicely mediocre receivers wide open on their D. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, Seventeen said: TBH, I think they are looking at the previous game in Cinci where the Bengals were up 7-3 and driving as a precursor to Sunday's playoff game. They haven't said it but I would think they're guessing Burrow will have a field day throwing against our secondary. This is 100% absolutely what they're doing. Extrapolating the 9 minutes of that game to an entire game almost a month later. -Never mind the fact the Bills are a notoriously slow starting defense and the Bengals, on the flip side, a notoriously strong early game offense. -Never mind the fact the Bengals are now down 2 more OL starters. And this is just opinion, but I was worried about our secondary heading into that MNF game... I feel much better about them now. 2 Quote
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