Gugny Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: and yet we have the 2nd best scoring defense in the league lol Exactly!! 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: All this said, I’m with others. I’m not sure the Bills DEs can take advantage of this. Rousseau would seem to be in the best spot, but when was his last “big” game? One sack isn’t going to do anything. Sacks are great, but its not really about the sacks. The key is just getting pressure on Burrow and disrupting his timing. If we allow Burrow time to throw to this group of WR's, we are in trouble defensively. But Burrow and this Bengals offense has shown they are far less effective when getting pressure on Burrow. And we have been pretty good at bringing pressure even without Von Miller. Will love to see 4 to 5 sacks, but we also don't need to get those to disrupt Cincy this week, just keep making Burrow uncomfortable back there and don't give him the time to carve up the defense to this insanely talented set of weapons he gets to throw to. 2 4 Quote
clayboy54 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 I find the constant strain of "we suck" to be annoying. But, what are you going to do. Facts and stats mean nothing. Apparently the smell test or the eye test of the fan base takes all precedence. I think it is beyond ridiculous. If you don't like Leslie's D then that's okay. But the players are not underachieving busts and they certainly don't suck. They are playing exactly as Leslie wants them to play. The on-field performance says that it works pretty darned well. 4 Quote
mabden Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 50 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Their backups arent terrible players. Probably not going to as big a deal as people will make out. The issue will be continuity. The Bengals OL have played every game through the season together. Now, there is essentially a new OL playing together for the "first" time. The question is not some much the talent level (obviously lower) but if they can gel with one of week's practice. 1 2 Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Im with the others as infuriating as it is with all the draft capital and FA money spent on the Dline, without Von we don't have anyone to really exploit weaknesses. Dolphind had a 3rd string Qb in and we almost lost Quote
Max Fischer Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Makes me question DVOA. Because without Von the pass rush is non existent. But . . . that's not true. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Max Fischer said: But . . . that's not true. 1 3 1 2 Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: The same was said for Miami's Oline. This Quote
Virgil Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Same was true for Miami most of the game and we couldn't get pressure unless we blitzed. Our ineffective defensive line, with all the draft capitol and FA money spent is Beane biggest failure to me Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Im with the others as infuriating as it is with all the draft capital and FA money spent on the Dline, without Von we don't have anyone to really exploit weaknesses. Dolphind had a 3rd string Qb in and we almost lost To be fair we didn’t almost lose because of the defense. The offense and special teams kept Miami in the game. 2 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 I would feel better about this if we had been a little more dominant against the Dolphins MASH unit offensive line. 1 1 Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: To be fair we didn’t almost lose because of the defense. The offense and special teams kept Miami in the game. This is true. I was speaking more so of the DL performance Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, VaMilBill said: None of our edge rushers are very consistent. Constantly getting pushed wayyyy up field. We are really gonna need Eddy O to have a big game This might help a little but I'm not getting all excited from this news. Last year didn't the Titans sack Joe like 9x and he still won. The only reliable blitzer we have is Milano. Edmunds has no clue what to do with a blitz. Groot & Ed will have to carry this front 4. God we needed Von for these next couple games..... Quote
gobills404 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Bengals are a super quick passing offense (Burrow has 2nd fastest release this year) and Frazier loooooves leaving the short stuff wide open. I’m expecting plenty of snaps where one of our DL smokes their blocker but the ball is already out. 3 1 Quote
Gary Marangi Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 And it will not matter we wont get close to Burrow 1 Quote
B-Large Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 It seems more likely we won't have a sack, rather than a field day of pressure and sackage... It just always works that way 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, clayboy54 said: I find the constant strain of "we suck" to be annoying. But, what are you going to do. Facts and stats mean nothing. Apparently the smell test or the eye test of the fan base takes all precedence. I think it is beyond ridiculous. If you don't like Leslie's D then that's okay. But the players are not underachieving busts and they certainly don't suck. They are playing exactly as Leslie wants them to play. The on-field performance says that it works pretty darned well. After watching our #1 defense get shredded with 13 seconds left, I could care less about stats & analytics. The only thing that matters to me IS the smell & eye test. Quote
H2o Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: And this is pretty much what most of us have noticed. Von was having a really solid year and was going to end up with 12+ sacks. Having him on the field also opened things up for everyone else because of the attention he commanded. We miss him tremendously. Another guy who has had an effect on this stat? Jordan Phillips. He hasn't been healthy in quite some time and is a beast in this defense getting pressure from the interior. 1 Quote
Eastport bills Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 This will be the test to determine Frazier’s value as a coach. You have a weakness on the O-line so how do you exploit it. Do you try and send extra rushers or use more people in coverage. I’m predicting we shut down their run game and make Burrow an underneath thrower. If we hold them under 24, I like our chances. Quote
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