NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 From the Manningcast last night, on the myth of halftime adjustments being some kind of game changer potentially. I'm curious what others here would say to that, especially those who've played any kind of organized football? I was a bench rider in Division 3 football in college, and I remember a lot of hysterics from the staff (as we were usually losing big by half), as well as a few hastily drawn diagrams on the chalkboard, but nothing much more than that. Thoughts? Block Quote: During Monday night's "ManningCast" of the Buccaneers-Cowboys game, Manning explained why he didn't believe in halftime adjustments. "I don't know if I ever made a halftime adjustment in my entire 18-year career," Manning said, making a glib joke about the Buccaneers as they came out to start the second half trailing the Cowboys 18-0. "I think that's the biggest myth in football — the halftime adjustments. You go in, you use the restroom, you eat a couple of oranges, and then the head coach says, 'Alright, let's go!'" Peyton's brother Eli agreed with his assessment. "You're in there for like, three minutes," Eli said. "There's no time!" Peyton concluded. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/peyton-manning-says-halftime-adjustments-are-the-biggest-myth-in-football/ar-AA16rK5Y?cvid=8080cce8c7744203b05615803dbd2a56 2 1 1 1 Quote
PetermansRedemption Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 I’m not sure it’s so much the players as it would be the coaches. Dorsey probably doesn’t go anywhere, so he has 15 minutes up in the booth where he isn’t calling plays. That’s 15 minutes he can take to actually think, as I imagine there isn’t much time for that during the 1st and 2nd quarters. 7 11 1 Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Interesting. But but but....isn't Bill Belicheks genius the explanation on how Belichek teams do so well to start q3? 3 Quote
eball Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Love it. I was watching. Adjustments are made "on the fly" by coordinators. Maybe at halftime the OC/DC are talking to their staffs, but there are no big meetings to "make adjustments" in the locker room. 2 1 Quote
WhoTom Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 I was under the impression that the coordinators made adjustments to their play-calling at halftime based on what they saw in the first half. This wouldn't necessarily involve the players. 5 5 Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Adjustments are made on a regular basis throughout the entire game. Certain things may get discussed more during halftime considering you have that 10-15 mins 3 Quote
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 17, 2023 Author Posted January 17, 2023 FWIW, here's an article talking about the Comeback game and Marv's interaction with Frank at his locker as well as some other player convos--definitely not an X's and O's sort of thing... https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32405466/how-buffalo-bills-pulled-greatest-comeback-nfl-history 1 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Was Jimmy Johnson lying when he said they adjusted to what the Bills were doing in the SB at the half and completely shutdown the offense? Quote
LabattBlue Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: I’m not sure it’s so much the players as it would be the coaches. Dorsey probably doesn’t go anywhere, so he has 15 minutes up in the booth where he isn’t calling plays. That’s 15 minutes he can take to actually think, as I imagine there isn’t much time for that during the 1st and 2nd quarters. This! Of course it isn’t the players. Thx for stating the obvious Peyton. 1 Quote
Boatdrinks Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: From the Manningcast last night, on the myth of halftime adjustments being some kind of game changer potentially. I'm curious what others here would say to that, especially those who've played any kind of organized football? I was a bench rider in Division 3 football in college, and I remember a lot of hysterics from the staff (as we were usually losing big by half), as well as a few hastily drawn diagrams on the chalkboard, but nothing much more than that. Thoughts? Block Quote: During Monday night's "ManningCast" of the Buccaneers-Cowboys game, Manning explained why he didn't believe in halftime adjustments. "I don't know if I ever made a halftime adjustment in my entire 18-year career," Manning said, making a glib joke about the Buccaneers as they came out to start the second half trailing the Cowboys 18-0. "I think that's the biggest myth in football — the halftime adjustments. You go in, you use the restroom, you eat a couple of oranges, and then the head coach says, 'Alright, let's go!'" Peyton's brother Eli agreed with his assessment. "You're in there for like, three minutes," Eli said. "There's no time!" Peyton concluded. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/peyton-manning-says-halftime-adjustments-are-the-biggest-myth-in-football/ar-AA16rK5Y?cvid=8080cce8c7744203b05615803dbd2a56 Thank you! Most of that stuff is on the sideline. This and “ playcalling” are the two most mythicized phrases in MMQB’ing football games. You see a dumb play call here and there but the game largely comes down to blocking and tackling with turnovers mixed in. 2 2 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Manning is the funniest guy in sports broadcasting right now. 1 2 Quote
Boatdrinks Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Was Jimmy Johnson lying when he said they adjusted to what the Bills were doing in the SB at the half and completely shutdown the offense? It was largely an exaggeration.. they changed a couple blocking schemes. Of course the SB has a much longer halftime than a regular game so there’s that. Also, why wouldn’t Johnson take credit and build his own status? Edited January 17, 2023 by Boatdrinks 1 Quote
17islongenough Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Peyton’s pretentiousness is growing. That's actually his forehead 7 1 Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 That's complete BS Peyton! I can tell you definitively as a veteran youth sports coach I routinely make adjustments at half time, that exactly 0 players pay a damn bit of attention to. Apparently they're all just like Peyton. No wonder we're so darn good. 1 2 Quote
H2o Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Peyton’s pretentiousness is growing. Pretty soon he'll be on the same downswing as Romo. Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Eli and Peyton are a good watch. His point was the legend of the halftime adjustment is non-sense. The coaching staff is working real time throughout the game to adjust things. surely there have been cases where epiphanies and adjustments happened during the pause between halves… just like there has probably been the same in timeouts, two minute earrings or when the other side of the ball is on the field. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 38 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Peyton’s pretentiousness is growing. he has zero pretension 1 1 Quote
US Egg Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, H2o said: Pretty soon he'll be on the same downswing as Romo. I don’t know, he’s a flame to many moths. Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: That's complete BS Peyton! I can tell you definitively as a veteran youth sports coach I routinely make adjustments at half time, that exactly 0 players pay a damn bit of attention to. Apparently they're all just like Peyton. No wonder we're so darn good. If you know you need to change something why wait until halftime?? 2 Quote
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