WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 His talent has not been questioned. He's still a douche 1 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 55 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: He’s been great but also incredibly lucky see the tuck rule and the Pete Carroll goal line decision. But I can’t take away what the man has accomplished going from pick 199 to being in the conversation as one of the greatest players ever. His announcing career is going to be interesting in the times he’s been on the Manning cast he’s been a solid interview. Fox will have him in the booth calling the Super Bowl. I get the feeling hes going to be good at it. Aren’t all the greats lucky? He also got unlucky, Eli escape act, the helmet catch, the dropped INT by Samual in the perfect season SB. BB not playing Butler against the Eagles. So my point is lucky and unlucky usually ends up evening out. Quote
boyst Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Meh, Miami fans feel the EXACT same way about Josh Allen. Fans will always dislike the other teams QB, and they will really dislike him if he is good and has a history of beating the snot out of their team. I rather have a dude that shows fire on the field over someone like Herbert who is emotionless. Uh. Miami barely sees Allen. And when they've seen him it's only been for 3 years. We haven't seen hoards of media felate Allen publicly on TV to the point that they end up on Maury Povich to find who is the baby mama. 1 Quote
Gugny Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 My vote was that my feelings will not change. I've liked and respected Brady for his entire career. Watching him in his prime ... other than when he was owning the Bills ... was a treat. I know I'm in the minority, here, but it's how I've always felt about the guy. He made the NFL better. 1 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, boyst said: Uh. Miami barely sees Allen. And when they've seen him it's only been for 3 years. We haven't seen hoards of media felate Allen publicly on TV to the point that they end up on Maury Povich to find who is the baby mama. I’m confused by your comment. Miami has barely seen Allen? I think Allen has played 11 games against them in five seasons. I don’t think he’s played more games against a single opponent than the dolphins. Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Aren’t all the greats lucky? He also got unlucky, Eli escape act, the helmet catch, the dropped INT by Samual in the perfect season SB. BB not playing Butler against the Eagles. So my point is lucky and unlucky usually ends up evening out. Nope not like he has. Dude was in a division for 20 years where the owners of the other teams didn’t really even care about football. Quote
TheBrownBear Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Somewhere in the middle of his record setting run I came to respect him and accept that he was truly great regardless of how I felt about him torturing me as a Bills fan. That won't change when he retires. He's got a bit of an insufferable dork vibe that makes me think he wouldn't be the most fun guy to golf or slam beers with, but I think he's probably alright in real life. And now that he's suffered through his divorce, it humanizes him a bit more in my eyes. Quote
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 He’s a cheating, luckbox douche. He’s also worked hard enough to have a career that spans 23 years and counting. People are more than one thing and I do respect aspects of him. 1 Quote
Draconator Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yay, he's the "GOAT". He's also a completely unlikable turd, a cheater, a dirty player, and as we saw AGAIN last night, a cheap little B word What he is doing is securing a 3rd round compensatory draft pick for Tampa Bay. He figured Bellicheat has enough of them. Quote
Riverboat Ritchie Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Nobody can really not respect his career but the unretirement move will tarnish some, albeit minor, his reputation and legend. I kinda remember his dad saying that given the type of person he is, his career will end badly as he will never want to leave the field. He looked bad last night but that could also be how bad his s WRs are. Go Bills. Quote
dgrochester55 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Brady was clearly a legend and HOF quarterback. With that being said, Belichick was suspected to cheat in multiple ways during his time there and there was often those one or two questionable calls in a close game which would extend a drive or kill the opponents momentum at a key time. This was not just against Buffalo but against every other team as well. While it is true that top tier qb's get the breaks sometimes, I don't every remember, Montana, Manning, Allen or Mahomes getting nearly what Brady consistently got. That is why I cant say that he is quite the greatest of all time. I respect his ability and will probably remember the negatives less as time goes on, but I don't think that I will ever like him. Edited January 17, 2023 by dgrochester55 Quote
damj Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 It's a trick question. He will never retire Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, NewEra said: I respect him. Always have. i can’t stand him. Always have Fully 100% agreed! Couldn't have said it better myself.... 1 Quote
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) This is a little like asking if I respect OJ now because he hasn't killed anyone in 28 years.* (* this isn't at all like it, but merely just a vehicle to slip this one in there (that's what she said)) Edited January 17, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts 2 Quote
billsfanfrom83 Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Retiring don't erase the cheating 1 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 No. That guy is and will always be the Antichrist 👿 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Felt Tom had a perfect storybook ending for retirement with his last Lombardi. Now I think things are forced and his skills are clearly diminishing. Factor in ego and the fear of hanging up the cleats, who knows when he calls it? But last night was ugly and teams will now think twice? Quote
NewEra Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said: Fully 100% agreed! Couldn't have said it better myself.... 👍🏻 Bobby Ewing was always my favorite! Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Airseven said: What would change? He’s the best. Now and after he retires. I appreciate him for finally allowing the Bills to take over the AFCE! He didn’t allow the Bills to do anything. Josh Allen would’ve took over the AFCE regardless if Brady left New England or not. 1 Quote
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