Bill's offense highest graded of the weekend Games. Defense second best.

[78thealltimegreat]

22 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Miami blitzes all the time. They get plenty of sacks on Josh but also get massively burned. Bengals won’t do that. Josh will take the underneath stuff and we will run more. They will put 30 plus up and win. 

 

I don’t expect to see Josh to get crazy and throw deep into double coverage. May need Knox and RB’s more. Josh certainly needs to protect the ball when rushed and use the quicker throws if needed.I think he hears literally everyone say how reckless he’s been. He knows this better than anyone. He adjusts and Bills win. 

Well he was 3 incompletions Shakur, Knox, Diggs from 6 td passes for some QBs that’s a career for Josh people consider that a bad game 

[BigAl2526]

The misses on those deep passes were mostly very narrow misses.  Buffalo attempted all those deep passes because Miami's defense loaded up to try and create pressure and defend Buffalo's run game and short passing game, in essence daring the Bills to pass the ball deep against their very good CBs.  I don't think Cincinnati's CBs are as good as Miami's.  Cincinnati's defensive ends are good.  I think Buffalo will probably play a little closer to the vest than they did Miami.  

[Turbo44]

1 hour ago, Heitz said:

I find all the “Josh was throwing picks all willy nilly out there” a bit confusing.  The one to Brown probably should have been caught had Brown now slowed down - if nothing else, should have been like a punt.  The one to Beasley literally hit him. The narrative reads like Josh was trying to throw the game away…  

We all expected us to blow out Miami, and we really should have.  Who knows, maybe with everybody expecting an epic game with Cinci, we blow them out.  Cincy looked pretty bad on offense Sunday (17 points) and are decimated at Oline.

 

The only thing that matters is the ring.  Stafford threw a season ending INT last year with 2 minutes left vs SF.  Right in the guys midsection.  The ball is dropped and next thing you know Stafford is a hero.

[BananaB]

18 hours ago, NewEra said:

That chart says we also had the #1 rated pass blocking unit- as we gave up 7 sacks. 

I think that was on Josh.  Could be Dorsey too, but there were plenty of plays where guys underneath were open, Josh decided to let it rip. 

Including the ones he completed, but no one is complaining about those passes. He had two deep drops,  had he gone short WRs could have dropped those passes as well. There is no guarantee he’s gonna complete a pass just because it’s shorter. Definitely not with this group of WRs, there is a reason why Beane picked up two old farts for help in December. 

Edited January 17, 2023 by BananaB

[Chaos]

9 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Not sure why we're excluding the Cowboys/Bucs game

 

I'd rate the offensive performances as:

 

1) Cowboys

2) 49ers

3) Giants

4) Vikings

5) Bills

 

Those other teams might not have had the explosive plays that we did, but they moved the ball more efficiently and didn't commit turnovers. 

You can rank them that way. And are simply wrong. 

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[WotAGuy]

This thread is like listening to 6 stoners throw out random unrelated thoughts. Very enjoyable. 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

4 minutes ago, Chaos said:

You can rank them that way. And are simply wrong. 

 

I've had a lot of negative reactions to my rankings, but have yet to see anyone give a reason why that's wrong. Maybe I should've swapped the 49ers and Cowboys.

 

1) Cowboys: A

 

10 possessions: 5 TD, 4 punts, and end of game

 

2) 49ers: A

 

10 possession: 4 TD, 4FG , 1 punt, and end of game

 

3) Giants: A

 

9 possessions: 4 TD, 1 FG, 2 punts, end of half and end of game

 

4) Vikings: A-

 

8 possessions: 3 TD, 1 FG, 3 punts, turnover on downs

 

5) Bills: B

 

16 possessions: 4 TD, 2 FG, 3 turnovers, 5 punts, turnover on downs, and end of game

 

Are we curving these grades based on quality of the defense we're playing against? That's the only consideration I could see for MAYBE moving the Bills up this list. It's not like Miami has a good defense. 

 

 

[Beck Water]

20 hours ago, Chaos said:

Feel free to hate on PFF. But this is how they saw the games this weekend. 

 

Josh Allen led offense #1.   Defense second best after the Ravens.  

 

 

 

I hate to say it, but this must makes me SMH all the more at the PFF grading.

Not that the defense wasn't very effective, it was

 

But sorry, you throw 2 picks and fumble twice, that is NOT great offense.

[John from Riverside]

21 hours ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

Sorry, but this Offense doesn't pass the smell test.

(Statistically speaking 67% of you won’t get what I'm saying)

Smells like a win to me

58 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

This thread is like listening to 6 stoners throw out random unrelated thoughts. Very enjoyable. 

Had a group of stoners working out in the gym I go to last night.

 

I never understood working out while high.....makes that workout last FOREVER

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

21 hours ago, Chaos said:

Feel free to hate on PFF. But this is how they saw the games this weekend. 

 

Josh Allen led offense #1.   Defense second best after the Ravens.  

 

 

Huge play in the game was the Beasley int and pff wouldn’t have credited that against josh.  He also gets credit for the deep pass to shakir and the Knox  ‘drop’ in the end zone 

 

from pffs point of view josh had a 400+ yard 4 or 5 td game with an int and a fumble 

 

a lot of those deep balls were the right read too and just barely missed 

Edited January 18, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Westside Madness]

Our offense was fine turnovers aside. That being said, turnovers have a huge impact on the offensive and defense. Their equations obviously don't take that into account, so this means nothing.

[Chaos]

2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Huge play in the game was the Beasley int and pff wouldn’t have credited that against josh.  He also gets credit for the deep pass to shakir and the diggs ‘drop’ in the end zone 

 

from pffs point of view josh had a 400+ yard 4 or 5 td game with an int and a fumble 

The ratings are for the offense as a whole. Not Allen. It includes all the turnovers. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, Chaos said:

The ratings are for the offense as a whole. Not Allen. It includes all the turnovers. 

I’m not sure that turnover would’ve counted against Beasley either though…I’d assume the offensive grade is somewhat of an average of all the individual performances.  
 

the original post mentioned Allen’s grade separately too…that’s what I was originally commenting on 

Edited January 18, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

10 hours ago, dma0034 said:

I mean the Bills were planning on making the Dolphins pay with their use of Cover Zero.... but either overthrows or dropped passes caused this to be much closer... even with the TOs. If Shakir doesn't drop the 50 yard pass when it's 17-9 or Allen hits Gabe down the sideline on two plays the game isn't really all that close. Dolphins kept running Cover Zero because the Bills didn't connect on those deep shots as much. 

It’s crazy how much that shakir drop changed the game. Cost us  3-7 points and added probably 10 points to dolphins score.  Could’ve easily been a 17 point swing.  Although we may not have snagged that extra fg just before halftime 

Edited January 18, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[WotAGuy]

22 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Smells like a win to me

Had a group of stoners working out in the gym I go to last night.

 

I never understood working out while high.....makes that workout last FOREVER

“Dude, you’re lifting like 100 million pounds!!”

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

12 hours ago, papazoid said:

#1 offense  ( not sure how this can be when josh ranked 10th out of 12 in QBR)

 

#2 defense (this makes sense )

 

special teams must have killed us...lol

Qbr accounts for the plays as they happened…pff analyzes each play and assigns the players a point value for how they performed individually.  So something like that 50 yard bomb to shakir or the Knox dropped td goes down as a max positive play for josh even though it was incomplete.  

[Scott7975]

21 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

I mean they were explosive and scored a bunch but they also helped keep Miami in the game and helped give them the lead too.

 

I just would have preferred them to not be so hellbent on trying to blow the Dolphins out. That would have likely made the game far easier to watch as a Bills fan and far less competitive.

 

Then all we would hear is how the Bills lack that killer instinct to put teams away.

[Georgia Bill]

Of the 13 passes for 20 yards or more (a lot):  6 completions (1 for a touchdown, 1 for 52 yards to Diggs), 6 incompletions, 1 interception.  That is taking a lot of deep shots but Josh has the arm and all in all that is not the "well below 50%" completion rate that one poster claimed.  We're going to live with Josh or die with him, but I think the majority of us (and all the Bills) love what he brings to this team.  I trust them as a team to do what is needed to win.

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Then all we would hear is how the Bills lack that killer instinct to put teams away.

 

If we won 28-10 and the Dolphins never got within 10 points we would have? 

 

If we did that would mean a lot of people don't really understand situational football.