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4 hours ago, WideNine said:

That guy used to kill us.

 

He is totally underutilized in the new Dolphin offense.

 

He is solid, great route runner, very good hands, if we had the cap to bring him in - definitely.

 

 

Seriously. How good could the boy genius be if he couldn't figure out how to use a guy like Gesicki? Sure he can't block but he's a hell of a receiver.

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I think the offense is and would continue to be more effective having 3WR's on the field so don't want to take one of them off the field routinely to go with 2 TE's.  So not worth spending the money for those few times we may want to have 2 pass catching TE's on the field.  I would rather spend money to sign a FA WR or draft one in 1st or 2nd round.  2 TE's on the field are good for weak arm QB's who live on 5 yard passes over the middle.

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4 hours ago, Draconator said:

 

It's known that Gesicki can't block, but he can get open and can catch the ball. Would you want Beane to sign him?

Oh, absolutely. He would absolutely replace Cole Beasley as Josh’s trusty slot WR.
 

I hear people say that he can’t block, but the guy’s 6’6 250lbs, trust me, he can block, he may need to learn better techniques though.


Gesicki is probably my top FA. Pay him $10M/yr for the next two years and call it a day.

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This team needs weapons.  TEs are cheaper than WRs, if they think they can use him as a slot WR who occasionally gets in the way of a DE on his way out to the flat, I’m in.  Basically, make him a big Slot WR. 

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3 hours ago, Bad Things said:

He's a damn good player, but boy does that guy rub me the wrong way.  He seems ultra-douchie.

 

I have only noticed him as a player in the field, but having a good locker room is important too.

 

A lot of comments about him being douchie, I am assuming there are some things he's done off-field that folks are talking about.

 

 

 

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The tight end market is currently overvalued. I just don’t see the value here. There are very few tight ends worth big contracts and Geiseke isn’t one of them. Not sure Knox is either but let’s not hand out two bad contracts to the same position. 

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2 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

I think the offense is and would continue to be more effective having 3WR's on the field so don't want to take one of them off the field routinely to go with 2 TE's.  So not worth spending the money for those few times we may want to have 2 pass catching TE's on the field.  I would rather spend money to sign a FA WR or draft one in 1st or 2nd round.  2 TE's on the field are good for weak arm QB's who live on 5 yard passes over the middle.

I think the opposite.  I’d love to see Josh and Cook lined up behind two stud TEs that can both block, run and catch. Diggs and a solid WR2 out wide.  It bolsters the run game and puts more pressure on the D to stop the run and not only focus on Josh.  Playaction improves.  Run game improves.  Pass game gets some pressure taken off of it while being just as potent.  Most teams gear up to stop the pass-  we would create mismatches in both the run and pass game.    
 

That said, I doubt we’ll ever see what it would look like.  

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8 hours ago, Billz4ever said:

If he can't block then he's a glorified WR, who's really not much use to us.  We need a legit WR2, which he is not.  Gabe was not that guy either in the regular season anyway.  We have plenty of others role players.  I don't think there's really anything special he brings to the table that we don't already have.

 

This. This. And then this again.

6 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

Oh, absolutely. He would absolutely replace Cole Beasley as Josh’s trusty slot WR.
 

I hear people say that he can’t block, but the guy’s 6’6 250lbs, trust me, he can block, he may need to learn better techniques though.


Gesicki is probably my top FA. Pay him $10M/yr for the next two years and call it a day.

 

No. No, he can't. Not for toffee.

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He is a great athlete, but terrible NFL level blocker.

 

If he would take a pay cut and limited (specialized) role, sure. He can catch the ball and run with it. And his size in the Red Zone would be a very nice asset. He could do what they wanted OJ Howard to be able to do.

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14 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

Gesecki is gonna get paid at least Top 10 TE money.

 

We already have an under utilized  TE making big money.

 

Plus I happen to like Morris who I believe has untapped potential.

This! Knox needs to be used more. And I really like the little we've seen from Morris. I'd have loved to get both of them into the mix while we have had our issues with WRs this year.

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10 hours ago, NewEra said:

I think the opposite.  I’d love to see Josh and Cook lined up behind two stud TEs that can both block, run and catch. Diggs and a solid WR2 out wide.  It bolsters the run game and puts more pressure on the D to stop the run and not only focus on Josh.  Playaction improves.  Run game improves.  Pass game gets some pressure taken off of it while being just as potent.  Most teams gear up to stop the pass-  we would create mismatches in both the run and pass game.    
 

That said, I doubt we’ll ever see what it would look like.  

 

NFL teams are averaging about 6.4 net yards per pass attempt and 4.3 yards per carry.

 

When you have a Josh Allen IMO that's a bad idea because of above.  I found that stat for the entire league, I'd imagine if looking at teams like Buffalo, KC, Bengals, you'd see an even larger difference.  Certainly can pass from formation you're suggesting but keeping three wide increases your chance, assuming the three are good to better WR's.  Having an elite QB also makes the WR's and d TE's too look better. 

 

Having said that do feel the Bills need more WR help than present.

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