We're on to Cincinnati(Bengals coming to OP). Sunday 1/22 at 3pm. Opening Line Bills -5

[astb41]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

 

That’s a nice trip. I got a pair of tix in the 100 level early yesterday for $280/ea.  fees added another $100+ to the final total.  The other prices i saw were quite a bit more in that moment so i jumped on them.  we’re making the 8 hour drive for this huge game. I wasn’t going to but it was like there was a “calling” in my head to get tix and come up.lol

 

I came up for a game in November and sat in Sec. 240.  Not all the 200 sections have radiant heat.  only the sections under the overhang have it.  240 does not, you are exposed to the elements as are the other similar 200 level sections.

 

 

 

Haha I had the same calling! Ended up snagging one in sec 138. Earning it with an 11 hour overnight layover in Denver but whatever!!!

[newcam2012]

48 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said:

 

While you're correct that the 1 series the Bengals had the ball the Bills didn't stop them. Bills moved the ball on them also with their 1 series. That being said, it's not even remotely close to being enough to determine anything at all regarding either team. 

 

And I'm sure you noticed that Bills defense has a habit of starting off slow and picks it up soon after. 

I agree with this. However, to set the record straight the Bengals had the ball a second time and were gashing the Bills defense for what looked like another score. Imho, only question is would it have been a TD or a FG. 

 

The Bills have to have a different strategy defensively going into this game. What that is I don't know. I know it shouldn't be Tre matched up one on one with Chase. 

 

Correct the Bills looked good on offense with a balance of run and pass. I think the Bengals will have an equally difficult time stopping the Bills. Allen has to play better than he did vs Miami. I'm confident he will. If he doesn't the team has shown a great ability to win games still.  That is encouraging. 

[Low Positive]

Just as an aside, I’m happy that we’re finally here. This is a huge game between two powerhouse teams. I dreamed of being in this game for the better part of two decades. Win or lose, the Buffalo Bills are part of the conversation.

Just now, newcam2012 said:

I agree with this. However, to set the record straight the Bengals had the ball a second time and were gashing the Bills defense for what looked like another score. Imho, only question is would it have been a TD or a FG. 

 

The Bills have to have a different strategy defensively going into this game. What that is I don't know. I know it shouldn't be Tre matched up one on one with Chase. 

 

Correct the Bills looked good on offense with a balance of run and pass. I think the Bengals will have an equally difficult time stopping the Bills. Allen has to play better than he did vs Miami. I'm confident he will. If he doesn't the team has shown a great ability to win games still.  That is encouraging. 

Burrow also has to play better than he did against Baltimore two weeks in a row. He didn’t turn it over, but he took no risks. You can’t beat the Bills by playing it safe. Should be an epic game. 

[boyst]

5 hours ago, Drew21PA said:

You don’t feel that we will get pressure if we shoot the quick routes?

 

this is a football discussion board my man - was looking to discuss football 

 

yikes 

I'm not scared of Jordan burrows

 

I don't believe we will need to shoot quick routes. I think we come out vanilla like always. I think we sprinkle in a few wrinkles to get a few big chance plays. Almost to the point of high risk, high reward.

 

I wish I watched enough film on them to have a background on what has been done to them...but I think:

 

1) a corner blitz on a 3rd and long. Johnson on the edge when they line up in a close split end slot. Show cover 3 with zone middle covered by Johnson on the slot. Switch to cover 2, Marlowe bashing the mid field and anyone crossing while Johnson tears up the outside edge to get a sack on statue borrows.

 

...I'm not going to spell his name right. He doesn't deserve it. The cockswagger chump puffing on cigars is cute if you're making a tic toc...

 

2) I am not going to go all out attack the drop back. He passes too quickly. We have seen Frazier successfully stop these QBs, Brady and Jackson, for example. Both two different QBs. We tell our DL to form the pocket, no escape routes - and hands up. I think that little bastard is like 5'6". I know he's taller but he doesn't play taller. With just 4 DL we can shut down the passing lanes.

 

3) they're gonna pin and pull on the run. They are gonna be close together as a default for pass pro. They want to leverage the pin and pull for their medicare backs. The one dude who beats women isn't as good as he was a few years ago. The other dude I don't know his name but it's cool they have two JAGs at RB. The NFL run game can be successful with JAGS. They can win games. Edmunds ... Next point

 

4) I really wish people understood his role in this defense. How far he has come this season and toward last calling defenses and making sure guys are lined up right. This could be a big matchup for him. He hasn't been as handsy as before. Not like Mixon is with women, at least.  Edmunds is going to be in the thick of things. Milano will be targeted by the offense to single out. Where they succeed in the WR department they lack in other skill positions and players which means they'll seek to eliminate 1 of our most potent weapons and ignore Edmunds. He could really have a game

 

4) boroughs knows he is good. That's cool. I wouldn't be surprised to see him run for a first. I wouldn't be surprised to see him laid out either. If the bills can touch him twice in the first 15 minutes of play I will be surprised. Their offense is going to be quick, aggressive down field and shaking things up. It's going to be a K-gun offense. their QB is going to get tired. So will the rest of their team. Who wears down first?

 

More specifics...

 

Taron Johnson is going to get targeted the most. It's the biggest matchup. They'll switch bodies there a lot. They will try big Higgins in there to see if he can beat him. Edmunds has to help. They also need to lay a lick on him. Id let the DEs hit him a few times early. It is going to be a long night for Johnson. 

 

Marlowe is going to play with his hair on fire I have a bunch.

[BillnutinHouston]

19 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

You have provided zero evidence to support Hendrickson's innocence except for his alleged faith (lol), which does not exactly distinguish him from most of the NFL's players. I have provided video evidence of what I saw, and what more of the viewing public would have seen and remembered had something serious and unprecedented not immediately consumed our attentions thereafter. Watch the main broadcast again when they briefly show us the Hendrickson transgression before cutting to commercial. It's unmistakable. 

 

Watch the 2nd replay. His momentum stops, then suddenly he accelerates again and spins into the QB's ankle, miraculously. The network feed even caught his eyes registering the intent (not pictured).  

 

 

 

No question that he put extra effort into that additional roll.

[Patrick Duffy]

3 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I agree with this. However, to set the record straight the Bengals had the ball a second time and were gashing the Bills defense for what looked like another score. Imho, only question is would it have been a TD or a FG

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Bengals ran only 2 plays before Hamlin situation. Or was it 3? That's why I didn't bother even bringing up a 2nd Bengals series....because it wasn't one.

[Dan]

3 hours ago, GottaRun said:

It's a recency bias.  They looked about ready to score 2 TDs on their first 2 drives against us, therefor people think they were going to score TDs on every drive and that game was surely unwinnable.   

I keep seeing this sentiment... the Bengals were not driving for a 2nd TD on us!   They scored.  We scored.  They then took the kickoff and completed 2 pass plays.. then Damar got hurt.  2 plays.  Thats not a drive.  They weren’t in scoring position, unless they had a 50 yards play dialed up and on deck.   There is zero reason to think they were about to score other than pessimistic posters assuming the worst. 

[Turbo44]

4 hours ago, astb41 said:

So I just decided to make the trip from SLC to Buff this weekend for Cincy.  Been a fan for over 30 years but it will be my first home game!  Coming out solo and there's some decent priced re-sale single tickets on TM in sections 243, 240, 223.  Any advice for a first timer on those seat locations?  I was hoping for 100 level but those are still above $300.  Looking to stay below $250.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

awesome!!  I'm flying in from NYC, my son is flyting in from NC and my brother is driving down from Toronto.  Simply have to be in Buffalo this weekend.  BUF/ANA hockey Saturday and of course THE GAME on Sunday

[newcam2012]

56 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I’m starting to feel this game and i can see the Bills really putting out a great effort. 

Cinci is good, obviously, but you look at their recent string of playoff success their turnover ratio in the games are +2 +2 +1 +2 +1.  They are creating and feasting off other teams mistakes and eeking out close wins.

 

Looking at the Bills schedule, they haven’t played a real solid dominant home game since Pittsburgh.  In the 6 home games since then, they’ve jumped out to leads in some but went ice cold and/or hung on for dear life.  New England was weird since who knows what happens if they don’t get once in a generation kickoff returns? That won’t happen again.   

I really think Buffalo will play the game of their lives Sunday. They just need to control emotions and not get too amped up (which leads to missed tackles and blown assignments) They should be able to, they’ve played in plenty of big games the past couple years. Can’t wait.

There is a concern here as a Bills fan and your point backs it up. The Bengals are very opportunistic with creating turnovers. What has this Bills offense done too often this year? More specifically, in the playoffs vs Miami. Answer is turnover the ball! 

 

Not trying to be negative here but it certainly is a concern.

 

Additionally, the Bengals red zone efficiency is excellent and near the top in the league. Their 3rd efficiency is close to Buffalo's percentage too. Not sure why you are trying to sell the Bengals short. Last year they went to the Super Bowl with a horrible Oline. That should tell you something. 

 

In short, this game to likely comes down to a FG make in the waining seconds of the game. I think it's Bass and the Bills that win. This team just knows how to win the close games. 

[Turbo44]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

 

That’s a nice trip. I got a pair of tix in the 100 level early yesterday for $280/ea.  fees added another $100+ to the final total.  The other prices i saw were quite a bit more in that moment so i jumped on them.  we’re making the 8 hour drive for this huge game. I wasn’t going to but it was like there was a “calling” in my head to get tix and come up.lol

 

I came up for a game in November and sat in Sec. 240.  Not all the 200 sections have radiant heat.  only the sections under the overhang have it.  240 does not, you are exposed to the elements as are the other similar 200 level sections.

 

 

 

Mine is the same exact situation - I was going to day trade tickets and maybe wait all the way up to Saturday night to buy, but found 4 in the $100 level for $295each and said screw it - fair deal

[LEBills]

I was a Mixon fantasy owner this past year so unfortunately I watched a lot of Bengals. If I am Frazier, I am dropping all but 3 or 4 guys, running a bunch of stunts up front, and daring Cinnci to beat us running.

 

Mixon is not very good and he was terrible the beginning of the year until the OL started to gel. Now with them down potentially 3 of 5 starters, I would not worry about Mixon and his sub 3 ypc he was getting at the beginning of the year. He is not explosive enough to take it to the house if he does manage to sneak into the secondary. Perine is actually better but he is still not a very good runner, better outlet out of backfield.
 

Burrow is going to be fine with the OL in shambles but their running game is going to be bad. 

Edited January 18, 2023 by LEBills

[Low Positive]

13 minutes ago, LEBills said:

I was a Mixon fantasy owner this past year so unfortunately I watched a lot of Bengals. If I am Frazier, I am dropping all but 3 or 4 guys, running a bunch of stunts up front, and daring Cinnci to beat us running.

 

Mixon is not very good and he was terrible the beginning of the year until the OL started to gel. Now with them down potentially 3 of 5 starters, I would not worry about Mixon and his sub 3 ypc he was getting at the beginning of the year. He is not explosive enough to take it to the house if he does manage to sneak into the secondary. Perine is actually better but he is still not a very good runner, better outlet out of backfield.
 

Burrow is going to be fine with the OL in shambles but their running game is going to be bad. 

I’m in the same boat, but because I

live in Cincinnati so that was the game on my main screen every week. The Bills, of all teams, were a much better rushing team than the Bengals. The Bengals will make plays in the passing game, but they will also go cold. Their only two blowouts were against bad teams (Falcons and Panthers) at home. They shouldn’t blow us out, but we may have to win a close one. These are big boy games.

[Senth]

The Bills should be able to eat that OL alive.

 

[Caesar]

20 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

You have provided zero evidence to support Hendrickson's innocence except for his alleged faith (lol), which does not exactly distinguish him from most of the NFL's players. I have provided video evidence of what I saw, and what more of the viewing public would have seen and remembered had something serious and unprecedented not immediately consumed our attentions thereafter. Watch the main broadcast again when they briefly show us the Hendrickson transgression before cutting to commercial. It's unmistakable. 

 

Watch the 2nd replay. His momentum stops, then suddenly he accelerates again and spins into the QB's ankle, miraculously. The network feed even caught his eyes registering the intent (not pictured).  

 

 

 

This is so childish to have to prove to adults:
 

 

39 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

I’m in the same boat, but because I

live in Cincinnati so that was the game on my main screen every week. The Bills, of all teams, were a much better rushing team than the Bengals. The Bengals will make plays in the passing game, but they will also go cold. Their only two blowouts were against bad teams (Falcons and Panthers) at home. They shouldn’t blow us out, but we may have to win a close one. These are big boy games.

This is very true, Mixon hasn't played well. Many fans have called for the backup Perine to get more carries.  Mixon costing us 12M per is another issue....

1 hour ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

No question that he put extra effort into that additional roll.

 

 

[Caesar]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

I'm not scared of Jordan burrows

 

I don't believe we will need to shoot quick routes. I think we come out vanilla like always. I think we sprinkle in a few wrinkles to get a few big chance plays. Almost to the point of high risk, high reward.

 

I wish I watched enough film on them to have a background on what has been done to them...but I think:

 

1) a corner blitz on a 3rd and long. Johnson on the edge when they line up in a close split end slot. Show cover 3 with zone middle covered by Johnson on the slot. Switch to cover 2, Marlowe bashing the mid field and anyone crossing while Johnson tears up the outside edge to get a sack on statue borrows.

 

...I'm not going to spell his name right. He doesn't deserve it. The cockswagger chump puffing on cigars is cute if you're making a tic toc...

 

2) I am not going to go all out attack the drop back. He passes too quickly. We have seen Frazier successfully stop these QBs, Brady and Jackson, for example. Both two different QBs. We tell our DL to form the pocket, no escape routes - and hands up. I think that little bastard is like 5'6". I know he's taller but he doesn't play taller. With just 4 DL we can shut down the passing lanes.

 

3) they're gonna pin and pull on the run. They are gonna be close together as a default for pass pro. They want to leverage the pin and pull for their medicare backs. The one dude who beats women isn't as good as he was a few years ago. The other dude I don't know his name but it's cool they have two JAGs at RB. The NFL run game can be successful with JAGS. They can win games. Edmunds ... Next point

 

4) I really wish people understood his role in this defense. How far he has come this season and toward last calling defenses and making sure guys are lined up right. This could be a big matchup for him. He hasn't been as handsy as before. Not like Mixon is with women, at least.  Edmunds is going to be in the thick of things. Milano will be targeted by the offense to single out. Where they succeed in the WR department they lack in other skill positions and players which means they'll seek to eliminate 1 of our most potent weapons and ignore Edmunds. He could really have a game

 

4) boroughs knows he is good. That's cool. I wouldn't be surprised to see him run for a first. I wouldn't be surprised to see him laid out either. If the bills can touch him twice in the first 15 minutes of play I will be surprised. Their offense is going to be quick, aggressive down field and shaking things up. It's going to be a K-gun offense. their QB is going to get tired. So will the rest of their team. Who wears down first?

 

More specifics...

 

Taron Johnson is going to get targeted the most. It's the biggest matchup. They'll switch bodies there a lot. They will try big Higgins in there to see if he can beat him. Edmunds has to help. They also need to lay a lick on him. Id let the DEs hit him a few times early. It is going to be a long night for Johnson. 

 

Marlowe is going to play with his hair on fire I have a bunch.

I can tell everyone here that every post I have seen about Allen on our boards has been very positive and respectful.  Maybe we know ball better than guys like this, but this is such a garbage disrespectful take and it is posts like this that are showing up on our board.  We have disphists like this as well but they are usually corrected pretty quick by those who know ball.
 

 

1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said:

Just as an aside, I’m happy that we’re finally here. This is a huge game between two powerhouse teams. I dreamed of being in this game for the better part of two decades. Win or lose, the Buffalo Bills are part of the conversation.

Burrow also has to play better than he did against Baltimore two weeks in a row. He didn’t turn it over, but he took no risks. You can’t beat the Bills by playing it safe. Should be an epic game. 

 

Neither team has played close to potential, not sure how terrible our oline backups will limit our playbook...

2 hours ago, fergie's ire said:

Yes, and didn't the Bears start almost the same way against us?  Touchdown and then another promising drive that stalled.

 

You comparing the Bengals to the Bears?

[Caesar]

4 hours ago, Georgia Bill said:

If a few questionable calls go the wrong way for the Bengals and we get up on them, I could see them getting testy and making some bad decisions/personal fouls - if they assume the league has pre-ordained a Buffalo win.  

You have an outdated reality of the Bengals.  We dont do that anymore.

[Motorin']

20 minutes ago, Caesar said:

 

This is so childish to have to prove to adults:
 

 

This is very true, Mixon hasn't played well. Many fans have called for the backup Perine to get more carries.  Mixon costing us 12M per is another issue....

 

 

 

There was no way on earth he could have stopped himself from rolling. Reminds me of this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Caesar]

1 hour ago, LEBills said:

 

 

54 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

 

 

2 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

- Allen is an ultra-aggressive dual-threat QB with a shoddy offensive line. He is going to turn the ball over. Lawrence threw 4 first-half INTs and JAX survived.

 

- Really hope we run, run, and run some more. Cook, Singletary, and Hines. Allen on designs, RPOs, and scrambles. Diggs, Shakir, and possibly McKenzie on sweeps. I saw someone posted BAL ran at Hendrickson so effectively CIN had to reserve him for passing downs. Do that. I am absolutely OK with a win including Allen's stat line at 15/21 for 208 and 1 TD.

 

- I hope OBD contacted the NFL about the 5-10 delay of games that went uncalled against MIA. I also hope McDermott brings that up to this week's officials before the game kicks off.

 

- While I agree our heavy draft investment into the defensive line must carry its weight, I think it will be maybe more important that White, Johnson, and Elam have incredible games matching up man-to-man and jamming CIN's big 3 WRs. We spend all game in zone and Burrow will shred us.

 

- When everyone zigs, zag. I'm calling a game with no more than 45 total points.  

 

- Personally, I am assuming CIN's offensive line is fully healthy until I see an inactive list stating otherwise. 

 

- Allen and Burrow are basically equal passers. Allen is by far the better runner. I think that makes him the better overall QB. 

 

- Hendrickson was not trying to help Allen with his shoelaces. Hurst was not trying to give Johnson a neck massage. I love the BUF-CIN relationship what with Dalton/Boyd/Drought and the overall great way their organization gave support through the Hamlin incident. But let's not kid ourselves, regardless of religious affiliation these guys are going to try to cheap shot and injure our most important starters. That should be the topic of conversation with the refs before McDermott brings up the delay of game or any other issue pre-game. The players need to keep aware of this as much as possible while still playing loose.

 

- "Who Dey?" is stupid and even if it came first, which I doubt, "Who Dat?" is better. 

 

- There's only one matchup I can think of that is more exciting with juicier storylines than BUF vs. CIN, and that's BUF vs. KC. Buffalo-based wig, hair dye, alcohol, marijuana, and stress ball companies should have a banner quarter. 

 

- LETS GO BUFFALO!!! Strangle the Bengals!!! GO BILLS!!!

Bengals run defense is pretty good, held Chubb and Henry both to around 30 yards.

Hendrickson isnt the best run defender but that is not why they sub for him.  He is on a snap count as he is playing with a broken wrist.

The Oline is not healthy and will be playing 3 backups, one that has played guard for 2 years and will be at LT.

LOL, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO THSI:  "I think it will be maybe more important that White, Johnson, and Elam have incredible games matching up man-to-man and jamming CIN's big 3 WRs"
 

 

2 hours ago, Process said:

Were approaching most overrated team/QB in the league with the Bengals and Burrow. People acting like they are the greatest show on turf. Expected from the talking heads but on here it's becoming silly. 

 

Bills need to score 40 to win? Give me a break. The Bengals team total is 22, go bet it then. 

Most overrated team and QB in the league?  They looked like it on that Monday night.... right?

Not sure how you say the Bengals are overrated?

Saying Burrow is overrated is just stupid, unless you think Allen is as well.  What passing stat does Josh surpass Joe?  Yards?  Accuracy?  TDs?  QBR?  

I think Josh is an awesome player and would never say he is overrated even tho his only trait that he has over Burrow is rushing (he can throw it a mile).

The Bengals are not the greatest show on turf and will not be with 2/5th of an oline.  The Bills should win the game but I'd expect that the Bengals will show they are not overrated to a knowledgeable football fan.

5 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

There was no way on earth he could have stopped himself from rolling. Reminds me of this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have heard that Trey had multiple rolls by a few people on here.  I'm guess the replay has been edited?

[Motorin']

1 minute ago, Caesar said:

 

 

Bengals run defense is pretty good, held Chubb and Henry both to around 30 yards.

Hendrickson isnt the best run defender but that is not why they sub for him.  He is on a snap count as he is playing with a broken wrist.

The Oline is not healthy and will be playing 3 backups, one that has played guard for 2 years and will be at LT.

LOL, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO THSI:  "I think it will be maybe more important that White, Johnson, and Elam have incredible games matching up man-to-man and jamming CIN's big 3 WRs"
 

 

Most overrated team and QB in the league?  They looked like it on that Monday night.... right?

Not sure how you say the Bengals are overrated?

Saying Burrow is overrated is just stupid, unless you think Allen is as well.  What passing stat does Josh surpass Joe?  Yards?  Accuracy?  TDs?  QBR?  

I think Josh is an awesome player and would never say he is overrated even tho his only trait that he has over Burrow is rushing (he can throw it a mile).

The Bengals are not the greatest show on turf and will not be with 2/5th of an oline.  The Bills should win the game but I'd expect that the Bengals will show they are not overrated to a knowledgeable football fan.

 

I have heard that Trey had multiple rolls by a few people on here.  I'm guess the replay has been edited?

 

It was impossible not to roll into Josh Allen's legs. And had it not been for JA17's tree trunks, Hendricks may have rolled right off the edge of the earth.

 

Hendrickson may owe Josh for saving his life! 

[Big Blitz]

Yea