We're on to Cincinnati(Bengals coming to OP). Sunday 1/22 at 3pm. Opening Line Bills -5

[boyst]

1 hour ago, Drew21PA said:

As a fan, are you saying this becuase you dont want to get your hopes up?  

 

Because, when you dig deeper than the surface, you will see this isnt the Bills defense you are referring to?  Are you afraid of Joe Burrow?  Its ok, hes a good QB, but statistically you are wrong on a lot here?

what kind of answer are you looking for? i am not afraid of joe burrow. i am making a statement about what our defense is capable of and know a few things.

 

if we flood short zones we cut off under routes but burrow can pass the ball outside the hashes quite well. with his depth at this position he can run decoys with one of the 3 - boyd, higgins, chase - inside. and easily just jump the TE to the oustside flat or even run a seam.

 

if we do simply flood the under zones it leaves the top wide open. we aren't capable of running man coverage and we must stick with what we know. i would love to see hyde return, but he will not be able to... so.

 

marlowe plays the short box in pair with edmunds. milano plays instinctive read/react to burrow to check his coverage or blitz. we play zone of cover 3 with poyer covering deep third. with johnson able to play nickel he is going to cover their slot in seemingly man coverage.

 

short of that i can break down a cover 4 scheme, with a 3 man front, while not even playing nickel defense if you'd like...which is an alternative.

 

how far in depth would you like?

 

 

[Real McClappy]

3 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

If John Brown would have ran straight ahead on that route, he would have ran past the DB, the ball would have been a little underthrown, Brown would have been in better position to slow down and time his jump for what would have been a contested catch.

My same thought on that throw as well. 

[Patrick Duffy]

20 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I knew it was going to happen as soon as he motioned out there late.

 

Burrow saw one on one and all week the Bengals insiders said Burrow sees one on one, he doesn’t hesitate, he immediately throws deep. 

I mean did it look like a ticky tac call on Tre to you? Or you feel it was a legit PI?

[BearNorth]

Just saw this re: #24.

 

Rookie Difference Makers in Wild Card.

CB Kaiir Elam, Buffalo Bills

Round: 1
PFF overall grade in 2022: 56.7
Wild-card game grade: 88.1

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

6 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said:

I mean did it look like a ticky tac call on Tre to you? Or you feel it was a legit PI?

From my recollection it felt like hand fighting, but I didn’t have a problem with the call. 
 

Tre has been grabby and doesn’t feel like his has his top gear back. 
 

The Bills put him in a bad position. 

[wjag]

13 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Bye, Tanner.

 

These late season moves are head scratchers.  What could possible be achieved by replacing 3rd string players who know the playbook and have practiced with the team all season for some 3rd stringers who have not?

[CincyBillsFan]

16 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

If John Brown would have ran straight ahead on that route, he would have ran past the DB, the ball would have been a little underthrown, Brown would have been in better position to slow down and time his jump for what would have been a contested catch.

Yea watching the replay reinforces the thought that this could have been a big play.  At worst the DB makes an awesome INT of a contested ball and the Dolphins take over at their own 3 yard line.  There are a lot of WR's that would have caught that ball and scored or been tackled inside the 5 yard line.  And I'm not banging on Brown here as he was in street clothes just 6 weeks ago.

 

 

[PaattMaann]

4 minutes ago, wjag said:

 

These late season moves are head scratchers.  What could possible be achieved by replacing 3rd string players who know the playbook and have practiced with the team all season for some 3rd stringers who have not?

 

The chance those guys being let go actually get a call up to play in the game is not likely given the roster makeup of this team...so the fact they know the playbook is almost irrelevant I would think. 

 

Pros:

- get a week or more of extended look at a player in house for the future

- maybe they give you a better look on a practice squad spot of a player you are about to play

 

[Logic]

7 minutes ago, wjag said:

 

These late season moves are head scratchers.  What could possible be achieved by replacing 3rd string players who know the playbook and have practiced with the team all season for some 3rd stringers who have not?

Personally, I think it's more about next year than this year. 

I think it's Beane trying to get a jump on some other teams in signing guys to the practice squad that they'd like to take to camp.

I could be wrong. I don't know how all the reserve/future signings work, how they tie into the practice squad, etc.

But I can only surmise that it's about next year, because they certainly aren't counting on Cortez Broughton or Dezmon Paton to meaningfully contribute in these playoffs, even on special teams.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Patrick Duffy said:

 

What did you think about that PI called on Tre?

You didn’t ask me but I’ll give my take-

 

I thought it was a play that the great CBs often get away with.  Peter’s (who isn’t great) was doing the same thing vs Cinci all game on Sunday.  
 

Was it a penalty? According to rules, yes.  Does it often go uncalled?  Oh yeah. The great corners push the limits on contact and know what they can and can’t get away with (within the limits).  They won’t always get away with it, but i feels Tre’s penalty was often overlooked. 

[Logic]

2 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:

 

The chance those guys being let go actually get a call up to play in the game is not likely given the roster makeup of this team...so the fact they know the playbook is almost irrelevant I would think. 

 

Pros:

- get a week or more of extended look at a player in house for the future

- maybe they give you a better look on a practice squad spot of a player you are about to play

 

There may be something to this, actually.

Dezmon Patmon is 6'4, 220. Tee Higgins is 6'4, 218. So at least in his case, I could see it being a "scout team" thing to give looks to our DBs against a big bodied WR.

Cortez Broughton also appears to be a DT, not a WR, as the post above suggests. Maybe his addition is a sign that Jordan Phillips' injury is ongoing and they want another body at the position, just in case.

[Patrick Duffy]

Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said:

From my recollection it felt like hand fighting, but I didn’t have a problem with the call. 
 

Tre has been grabby and doesn’t feel like his has his top gear back. 
 

The Bills put him in a bad position. 

 

See that's similar to what I remember, but was more like a hand check that only lasted like maybe 1-2 seconds. I may a cloudy memory I guess, but I recall yelling at the t.v "A flag for Tre's hand touching his waist/side for a split second and a f*cking flag" lol

[Low Positive]

8 minutes ago, Logic said:

There may be something to this, actually.

Dezmon Patmon is 6'4, 220. Tee Higgins is 6'4, 218. So at least in his case, I could see it being a "scout team" thing to give looks to our DBs against a big bodied WR.

Cortez Broughton also appears to be a DT, not a WR, as the post above suggests. Maybe his addition is a sign that Jordan Phillips' injury is ongoing and they want another body at the position, just in case.

This is what I came in here to post. Patmon is being paid for a week to simulate Higgins in practice. Broughton is just a standard roster move. The Bills released him on Saturday and are bringing him back on Tuesday. 

[Dillenger4]

5 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said:

 

See that's similar to what I remember, but was more like a hand check that only lasted like maybe 1-2 seconds. I may a cloudy memory I guess, but I recall yelling at the t.v "A flag for Tre's hand touching his waist/side for a split second and a f*cking flag" lol

It's funny because I saw it as Tre can't keep up. At all. It was 100% a flag and he got smoked and called for it. He then whined, embarrassed like he always does, felt no shame and continued to get burned again for the first Cincy TD. Average player making, or rather , Not making an average play. Again.

[Goin Breakdown]

39 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Bye, Tanner.

Hey Tanner. We know you've been here off and on and we are about to embark on a SB championship. How would you like to not be apart of that while we....idk replace your with a dude who knows nothing about our offense?  K. Have a great day

[stlbills13]

I thought it was interference but not sure that gets called if it weren't the first play of the game

[Patrick Duffy]

2 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

It's funny because I saw it as Tre can't keep up. At all. It was 100% a flag and he got smoked and called for it. He then whined, embarrassed like he always does, felt no shame and continued to get burned again for the first Cincy TD. Average player making, or rather , Not making an average play. Again.

Yup, that's sole reason I was saying Tre's hand was on him for a split second because he ran by Tre so fast. 

[The Jokeman]

3 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Hey Tanner. We know you've been here off and on and we are about to embark on a SB championship. How would you like to not be apart of that while we....idk replace your with a dude who knows nothing about our offense?  K. Have a great day

Cortez a big WR at 6-2 293 lbs lol but he did spend some time in KC PS in 2021 and 2022 as a DT.

[Dillenger4]

1 minute ago, Patrick Duffy said:

Yup, that's sole reason I was saying Tre's hand was on him for a split second because he ran by Tre so fast. 

I sure hope Tre can play better this week. We will need him. But I truly think he ha snever been a great CB like a lot of people think here. He had one great season when our schedule was relatively light. He has done nothing since. I know he is average. I know we expect a lot from him. But man, he has been picked on for years. I hope we go CB in first 2 rounds and get a vet in here that can ball.

[Wraith]

2 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

It's funny because I saw it as Tre can't keep up. At all. It was 100% a flag and he got smoked and called for it. He then whined, embarrassed like he always does, felt no shame and continued to get burned again for the first Cincy TD. Average player making, or rather , Not making an average play. Again.

The Cincy TD was not on Tre, it was 100% the perfect offensive play call for the alignment the Bills were in. The Bills were in zone and White had outside leverage with Hamlin inside deep and Neal, Edmunds, Milano underneath. Hamlin had to drop down to cover the slot receiver who ran a deep cross behind Neal and Edmunds. As soon as Hamlin committed, White had zero chance to cover the deep in route. I don't know if Hamlin made the right decision, the slot guy would've been wide open at the goal line if Hamlin kept his depth but it might've been a more difficult throw in between Edmunds and Milano. Perhaps Poyer should've rotated over sooner...