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25 minutes ago, Beast said:

If Shakir was able to hang onto a ball and Josh was a little more accurate on those deep balls the Bills would have hung a 50 burger on the Fish.

 

 

Well yea, but that’s the point isn’t it? Those are tough, low percentage throws.  Easier, higher percentage plays are good too. And better is many circumstances.

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29 minutes ago, JMM said:

Are you familiar with the following concepts: RB screen, TE screen, bubble screen, draw, delayed draw, quick slant, quick out, go and stop, etc.  I'm no OC, but it seems to me that there are experts in the NFL that believe these are effective concepts against cover zero. Thanks for your attention.  Now...back to calling your seven step drop duo go routes.....

Dear JMM,

You should have stopped at “I’m no OC”

Sincerely, 

Ken OC Dorsey

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20 minutes ago, mannc said:

Anyone know why that didn’t work today?  Were they spying him?  Just seemed like Josh had nowhere to go.

They spied him on nearly every play.

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Just now, peterpan said:

Well yea, but that’s the point isn’t it? Those are tough, low percentage throws.  Easier, higher percentage plays are good too. And better is many circumstances.


The amount of points on a scoreboard at the end of a game will always matter the most. The Bills should have had 50 today.

 

I guess bad things never happen in the short passing game…like that throw to Beasley that went for a pick, right?

 

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20 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:


The plays may have been fine but it’s a tempo/feel thing.  Bills were up 17 nothing and ripped off two great long runs and he dials up a bomb that gets picked.  Maybe it was Josh audibling and Smoke shouldn’t have stopped but it was the worst thing to call at that moment of the game and it seemed to completely change the rhythm of it all.  It’s a game flow thing that gets me with Dorsey - he needs to be Josh’s governor but instead, it’s like he’s up in the booth eating pop rocks and chugging 4 Loco.

The back to back deep shots once we started getting momentum in the third was PAINFUL from a rhythm standpoint. I get that the play was there to be made. Just felt like a low percentage call when we needed to generate a longer drive.

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2 minutes ago, Beast said:


The amount of points on a scoreboard at the end of a game will always matter the most. The Bills should have had 50 today.

 

I guess bad things never happen in the short passing game…like that throw to Beasley that went for a pick, right?

 

But again, “should”.  Maybe if we had more than one WR of the team the 7 step drop hail Mary’s would produce better 

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the offense was much better in the redzone today, like the plays to cook and beas were nice. knox shoulda had a tuddy too.

 

between the 20s was just straight up madden playcalling with the '***** it, just throw it deep.' it was out of control.

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5 minutes ago, peterpan said:

But again, “should”.  Maybe if we had more than one WR of the team the 7 step drop hail Mary’s would produce better 


Hail Mary’s. That’s rich. 

Posted (edited)
36 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Cook literally scored a long TD within the last few weeks on a draw. Do people even watch games anymore or do they just randomly comment with having no knowledge?

Oh all hail bigturk and his massive football database 

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23 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

They ran a draw 2 weeks ago and Cook broke a nice run off it. It would be nice to see more with Cook. Especially sprint draws with Josh 

When you are talking draws in terms of a few weeks ago that’s a problem 

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IMHO - Dorsey has failed to develop a strategy for the opposition pass rush.  Josh is getting rushed on many plays and they need more quick outlet options vs. having him wait to throw further downfield or get sacked.

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2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Proof?

 

:lol:

 

C'mon man, I was listening to that game on the radio in the truck and know what it was

Posted
21 minutes ago, JMM said:

Are you familiar with the following concepts: RB screen, TE screen, bubble screen, draw, delayed draw, quick slant, quick out, go and stop, etc.  I'm no OC, but it seems to me that there are experts in the NFL that believe these are effective concepts against cover zero. Thanks for your attention.  Now...back to calling your seven step drop duo go routes.....

What’s puzzling to me is that the Bills have Joe Brady and Mike Shula on staff. Both are  tenured NFL offensive coaches with years of experience who should be available for counseling and mentoring the first year OC. Can they not help Dorsey to have more imagination with play design and implementation?

In a previous posting I asked the question ‘is Dorsey a frustrated ex-QB who’s living vicariously through Allen and just wants to throw bombs all day?”


in 2022, Josh has frequently regressed back to ‘the hero ball’ novice he was 3 or 4 years ago.  He’s become impatient, careless with the ball, improvising too much, and his inconsistent accuracy has receivers often reaching high or scooping from the turf to make catches. 
 

The Bills are winning, but they’re living dangerously. Unless they eliminate sloppy play and start playIng like a Championship team, we may have just seen our last Bills victory of the 2022 season.  

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43 minutes ago, JMM said:

Are you familiar with the following concepts: RB screen, TE screen, bubble screen, draw, delayed draw, quick slant, quick out, go and stop, etc.  I'm no OC, but it seems to me that there are experts in the NFL that believe these are effective concepts against cover zero. Thanks for your attention.  Now...back to calling your seven step drop duo go routes.....

How about a trick play?!

 

Not that it’s a trick play… but I’d like to see them run an actual option . Why not

 

I just want to see the slightest bit of creativity!!!!

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Play calls should never stop momentum.  The series with the two long ball incompletions did that.  Whether Dorsey called that, or Josh tried to play hero ball, it was the opposite of what was needed.

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19 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:


That looked identical to the one Brown caught last week against NE.  A better throw and it could have been a TD

Romo did point out that Brown let up on the route. Seems to be lots of miscommunications like that. 

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