Isaiah Hodgins Bills made big mistake

[CapeBreton]

I’m guessing McDermott doesn’t trust younger players at WR and prefers veterans. Hodgins doesn’t get a chance, Shakir doesn’t get targets, Davis was overshadowed by Emmanuel Sanders last year, they traded for Diggs, now they have Beasley and John Brown back in the lineup. 

[BaaadThingsMan]

I just think it's a case of the Giants plucking him just as he was seasoned nicely, about to boil. 

 

The Bills were patient and gave him extra development time and just as he was rounding into game shape the Giants snatched his ass. 

 

Nobody knew him better than the GM and Daboll, besides the Bills. 

[ChicagoRic]

  On 1/16/2023 at 12:55 AM, LabattBlue said:

How many ST “aces” do you need?   You can probably count one one hand the number of game changing plays by their other ST “aces”, Jones and Matelkevich. 

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That's the funny thing about special teams aces.  You don't miss them until you haven't got them.  One of the least understood parts of the game. 

[Ralonzo]

  On 1/16/2023 at 1:44 AM, ChicagoRic said:

That's the funny thing about special teams aces.  You don't miss them until you haven't got them.

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And if you decide to kick deep for touchbacks you still don't miss them even if you haven't got them.

[Roundybout]

  On 1/16/2023 at 1:05 AM, ArtVandalay said:

No he hasn't, that's a joke. Guy has fallen flat on his face every playoff. This is the man that benched his starting QB for Nate Peterman.

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It's been SIX YEARS and I cannot believe we are still on this point. Tyrod threw for 54 yards against New Orleans and it made complete sense to see what we had in the rookie. 

[John from Riverside]

Hated it whenever I saw it but I’m happy for him

[Spiderweb]

  On 1/16/2023 at 12:25 AM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

Because Kumerow. And that was a big mistake in hindsight. 

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And McKenzie...

[Bferra13]

  On 1/16/2023 at 12:39 AM, Srw1525 said:

Kumerow was a special team ace which is why the Bills choose him over Hodgins. Hodgins couldn’t play special teams. 

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And again... a dumb decision. 

[Beck Water]

  On 1/16/2023 at 12:29 AM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

Fans knew Hodgins could play though. I don’t recall what the fan sentiment was on Teller when he was here. Was he a guy that just turned a corner once he left? 

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Yes.  He’d played better at guard than Vlad Ducasse but the whole OL stunk in 2018

[Mango]

  On 1/16/2023 at 12:27 AM, Big Turk said:

 

Good for him but he would have gotten limited opportunities here.

 

Always could end up like Foster here tho too next year. 

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Hodgins plays inside. We’ve struggled with inside receivers. 
 

Shakir can play inside and out. I’m constantly surprised he isn’t given more looks.

 

For all the good stuff this staff does, they don’t do great with in game/season development. 

Edited January 16, 2023 by Mango

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Hodgins also was hurt for two years in a row.

 

He’s a nice possession WR.

 

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

  On 1/16/2023 at 1:01 AM, Epstein's Mother said:

 

These guys are in full rant mode.  Don't confuse them with facts.

 

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You good?

[Bubba Gump]

  On 1/16/2023 at 12:26 AM, TheWeatherMan said:

Fun fact, Aaron Rodgers loves Kumerow 

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Another fun fact, Kumerow's nickname was Touchdown Jesus.

[The Jokeman]

  On 1/16/2023 at 2:39 AM, Bferra13 said:

And again... a dumb decision. 

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It's easy to say in hindsight but not sure he gets same snaps here and we don't see how good he is with the Giants.

  On 1/16/2023 at 2:44 AM, Mango said:

Hodgins plays inside. We’ve struggled with inside receivers. 
 

Shakir can play inside and out. I’m constantly surprised he isn’t given more looks 

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Maybe Shakir isn't great in practice or we just want to develop him more. 

[Mango]

  On 1/16/2023 at 2:45 AM, The Jokeman said:

It's easy to say in hindsight but not sure he gets same snaps here and we don't see how good he is with the Giants.

Maybe Shakir isn't great in practice or we just want to develop him more. 

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Clearly the staff thinks he (and Hodgins) are not better than McKenzie. The conversation is are they wrong/did they make a mistake?

[Norcalbillsfan]

He was never healthy, and when he was Gabe was playing well and kumerow was needed on teams. Happy for the guy, but you can't evaluate a guy that could never play.

[zow2]

As i said in another thread, the Bills put all this time and patience into Hodgins and then expose him like that.  It’s shameful really that the guy is on their roster yet they couldn’t evaluate his talents and now he’s a stud in NY. Same season.  This one is a bad one for Beane and McD.

[MJS]

  On 1/16/2023 at 12:35 AM, Aussie Joe said:

I suppose we cant just be happy for his success?

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Seriously. The drought has messed up this fanbase. They can't deal with normal, everyday things in the NFL like players leaving and having success elsewhere, or the Bills winning close games. Or heck, even losing a game every once in awhile.

 

All of these things are the end of the world and means we need to fire everyone and start over. It's like we are dealing with toddlers.

  On 1/16/2023 at 12:29 AM, ArtVandalay said:

Because Dabol is the brains of the Bills offense, and he's gone took Hodgins as soon as he was available. 

 

Should have left McD in KC after his latest postseason meltdown,  13 seconds, and elevated Dabol. 

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You have this strange, childish vendetta against McDermott. It is an obsession and says a lot more about you than it does about McDermott. Your tirades really make you look bad.

 

You should probably cool it. Just friendly advice.

[BillsShredder83]

  On 1/16/2023 at 1:00 AM, Turbo44 said:

All he did for Buffalo was get injured.  Good for him now, but, in Buffalo productivity relies on availability and he was never available

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was he injured or "injured". very fair question, especially last year

[Sierra Foothills]

  On 1/16/2023 at 12:32 AM, Big Turk said:

 

Then why was the offense statistically better with far fewer "bad" games this year than last year under Daboll?

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And against a tougher schedule this year.

 

  On 1/16/2023 at 12:35 AM, pigpen65 said:

Crazy thing to me about Hodgins is that the guy couldn't stay healthy for more than 5 minutes his entire time with the Bills. Who knew he could even stay in a game long enough to have a good game.

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It is ironic. Hodgins couldn't stay healthy when he was here and then after he leaves, Kumerow gets injured. And in fairness, the Bills were starting to incorporate Kumerow into the offense a bit before he got injured.

 

  On 1/16/2023 at 12:55 AM, LabattBlue said:

How many ST “aces” do you need?   You can probably count one one hand the number of game changing plays by their other ST “aces”, Jones and Matelkevich. 

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I don't know. All I know is that I'm glad we had 2 kickoff returns for TDs last week and that we have excellent special teams. It's great that we're playing the Bengals in Orchard Park instead of Cincinnati... due to special teams.

 

  On 1/16/2023 at 1:44 AM, ChicagoRic said:

That's the funny thing about special teams aces.  You don't miss them until you haven't got them.  One of the least understood parts of the game. 

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Agreed. Having bad special teams is a constant, recurring plague.

 

  On 1/16/2023 at 1:51 AM, Ralonzo said:

 

And if you decide to kick deep for touchbacks you still don't miss them even if you haven't got them.

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Not every special teams play involves kicking off to your opponent.

 

 

Edited January 16, 2023 by Sierra Foothills