Season end, how good are the Bills really?

[Wraith]

1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

From 7-6 through to 13 seconds. I’m very cognizant of what I said and how I said it, son.*

 

 

(* it sounds dickish but I really don’t mean it that way, brother Wraith.  It just read cool the way I wrote it!  😂. I hear ya!)

Then you’re straight up wrong, lil fella. There is no argument to be made that the Bills were better down the stretch leading into the playoffs last season. They almost ended up as a wild card. The game against the Falcons was uglier than any Bills win this season. 

[Beck Water]

20 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:

 

They did contain them much better.   Again...not apples to apples because no Tua but for what ever reason the dolphins wr didnt play that well..maybe part was timing..maybe it was all Bills D..   

 

Probably some of both.  There were times where Thompson got a catchable ball to them and they failed to haul it in.  Now perhaps Tua would have thrown a more perfectly catchable ball that would have stuck to their hands, IDK, but they didn’t help him.  And part of that is knowing a DB is right there and is going to plaster them vs. having 5 yds separation or being wide open

[Comebackkid]

14 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Josh was fine today, if this game pointed anything out, it’s a resounding lack of talent at WR, the drops on all the deep shots were unreal.

what happend with the receivers today though?   diggs started out on fire, then totally dissapeared.  knox...one or two great catches..then dissapeared.   Davis a few nice catches.   

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Baba Booey said:

Said exactly this in another thread and got killed for it. I know they’re our team but please take the rose colored glasses off and really look at this team. 

Okay.  I'll put on a pair of glasses with lenses as thick as coke bottles:

 

The Bills are 14 - 3 and have advanced to the Divisional round of the playoffs.

 

The three losses were by a total of 8 points.

 

The Bills had the 3rd hardest strength of victory schedule and were a top 3 offense and Defense.

 

Through 17 games Allen has nearly 5500 total yards and 45 TD's.  Yea he also has 22 TO's but Allen is likely to fluctuate between 40 - 50 TD's and 15 - 20 TO's every season he plays for the Bills.  If you think that's to much say it and argue that the Bills need a change at QB.

 

 

 

 

[dakrider]

Its tough to win in the NFL, even if you a great team.  If your just an average team, you certainly don't win 13 games.  
 

[dollars 2 donuts]

3 minutes ago, Wraith said:

Then you’re straight up wrong, lil fella. There is no argument to be made that the Bills were better down the stretch leading into the playoffs last season. They almost ended up as a wild card. The game against the Falcons was uglier than any Bills win this season. 

 

Agree to disagree on me being 100% right.

 

 

[Baba Booey]

Just now, CincyBillsFan said:

Okay.  I'll put on a pair of glasses with lenses as thick as coke bottles:

 

The Bills are 14 - 3 and have advanced to the Divisional round of the playoffs.

 

The three losses were by a total of 8 points.

 

The Bills had the 3rd hardest strength of victory schedule and were a top 3 offense and Defense.

 

Through 17 games Allen has nearly 5500 total yards and 45 TD's.  Yea he also has 22 TO's but Allen is likely to fluctuate between 40 - 50 TD's and 15 - 20 TO's every season he plays for the Bills.  If you think that's to much say it and argue that the Bills need a change at QB.

 

 

 

 

I never said that they need a change at QB, all I said is Josh has to play better than he has in order for us to win a Super Bowl. You can at least admit that!

[Andy1]

This style of this season seems to be the Bills winning ugly. They just might win the SB playing ugly and we’d all say they just can’t put it all together.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

We are officially a spoiled fan base.  8 wins in a row...

[DCofNC]

3 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:

what happend with the receivers today though?   diggs started out on fire, then totally dissapeared.  knox...one or two great catches..then dissapeared.   Davis a few nice catches.   

Aside from Diggs, they have nobody.  Also, Dorsey seemed to go to the, run, run, throw deep strategy.

[Comebackkid]

5 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Okay.  I'll put on a pair of glasses with lenses as thick as coke bottles:

 

The Bills are 14 - 3 and have advanced to the Divisional round of the playoffs.

 

The three losses were by a total of 8 points.

 

The Bills had the 3rd hardest strength of victory schedule and were a top 3 offense and Defense.

 

Through 17 games Allen has nearly 5500 total yards and 45 TD's.  Yea he also has 22 TO's but Allen is likely to fluctuate between 40 - 50 TD's and 15 - 20 TO's every season he plays for the Bills.  If you think that's to much say it and argue that the Bills need a change at QB.

 

 

 

 

was that sos at the begining or the end of the season?   

http://powerrankingsguru.com/nfl/strength-of-schedule.php shows us at #7

now sure why you cant double click the link but you can highlight and open in a new window.  

 

 

 

 

 

[Liberal Bob]

Bills are a very good team but yes they have their weak points but I think we all are seeing they miss V Miller big time

[Wraith]

7 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Aside from Diggs, they have nobody.  Also, Dorsey seemed to go to the, run, run, throw deep strategy.

Davis was phenomenal today. 

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

9 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Aside from Diggs, they have nobody.  Also, Dorsey seemed to go to the, run, run, throw deep strategy.

Playoff Gabe is a real thing.

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Xwnyer said:

Josh has regressed.  Running game isn’t used enough and defense gives up to many third and long.  OC or Josh is always looking for HR ball versus dink and dunk  and time killing drives.  See the play calls up 10 11 mins left in fourth quarter two attempts to get Davis deep.

Allen has not regressed.  What we're seeing is the Allen we're going to get for the next 10 years.  More then 5,000 total yards every season, 40 - 50 TD's and 15 - 25 TO's.  This is what his style of play will give you.  Now if the Bills can put some resources into the offense and improve the O-line and add another top notch skill player Allen will likely have 45 - 50 TD's to about 10 - 15 TO's every year he's healthy.

 

Now if that isn't good enough make the argument why the Bills need anew QB.

 

 

 

 

 

[Comebackkid]

4 minutes ago, Wraith said:

Davis was phenomenal today. 

he had more receptions than i remembered....  6 for 113 yrds and a td.   

[CincyBillsFan]

6 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:

was that sos at the begining or the end of the season?   

http://powerrankingsguru.com/nfl/strength-of-schedule.php shows us at #7

now sure why you cant double click the link but you can highlight and open in a new window.  

 

 

 

 

 

Strength of victory was at #3.  It's different then SOS which includes all games where strength of victory only includes the teams the Bills beat.

 

 

 

 

[Seventeen]

Just now, CincyBillsFan said:

Allen has not regressed.  What we're seeing is the Allen we're going to get for the next 10 years.  More then 5,000 total yards every season, 40 - 50 TD's and 15 - 25 TO's.  This is what his style of play will give you.  Now if the Bills can put some resources into the offense and improve the O-line and add another top notch skill player Allen will likely have 45 - 50 TD's to about 10 - 15 TO's every year he's healthy.

 

Now if that isn't good enough make the argument why the Bills need anew QB.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The talk of needing a new QB is laughable but typical after a close game - ask any of the non-playoff and some of the playoff teams if we need a new QB. 

[CincyBillsFan]

17 minutes ago, Baba Booey said:

I never said that they need a change at QB, all I said is Josh has to play better than he has in order for us to win a Super Bowl. You can at least admit that!

I think a better argument can be made that other players on the offense need to play better, not Allen.  In fact if Allen plays like he did today and other guys on the O step up their game we have a good chance to get to the Super Bowl.

 

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

20 minutes ago, Comebackkid said:

what happend with the receivers today though?   diggs started out on fire, then totally dissapeared.  knox...one or two great catches..then dissapeared.   Davis a few nice catches.   

Allen said it in his PC. They played man and doubled Diggs. Other guys were open. Allen missed some deep shots and the Shakir drop was just beautiful.  It was great play design as he and Diggs were running close and Diggs went short and drew two defenders with him and Shakir blew past his man. 

The sack fumble was a hot read. He should have thrown the ball to Motor. Greg Olson described a similar play to Saquan. The RB is supposed to let the pass rusher go and get out into the flat. Bad recognition by Allen.

My question is why Dorsey can not dial up more balls to Knox. He is a mismatch out there and they just don't use him.

Really hoping Cole gets about 7 - 10 targets next week. He is still lethal underneath.