Saxum Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: The good WRs that have come through there have left for the same reason Lamar wants out - Roman’s offense. Roman’s offense is designed around his limitations. 2 Quote
Doc Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Which means he is NOT being traded requiring picks. They may choose to use non-exclusive tag meaning no draft picks if someone signs but they get to match. The worry is a contract which is easily breakable and clause stating he cannot be tagged. #8 may do that just become a free agent. The exclusive franchise tag means no team can negotiate with him. Non-excuslive means 2-1st rounders if he signs with another team. Transition tag is ROFR. They will non-exclusive franchise tag him if they can't work out a deal. Quote
bigduke6 Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 Phins dont have the capital to get Lamar away from the Ravens. they dont have the picks, or the $$$$. theyd have to move a bunch of really key players to snag him imo. Quote
Nextmanup Posted January 15, 2023 Author Posted January 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: Phins dont have the capital to get Lamar away from the Ravens. they dont have the picks, or the $$$$. theyd have to move a bunch of really key players to snag him imo. Any why wouldn't they move a bunch of key players to snag him? I'll breathe lightly when this guy signs somewhere outside our division....even if he gets zero respect at this forum! Along with pretty much every other QB in the league not named Josh Allen. Quote
Malazan Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 Well, now we know there is zero chance the Dolphins pursue Jackson. Quote
billsbackto81 Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 You can't go "All In" without any chips. There will be much better offers out there that Miami can't approach. Quote
BarleyNY Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Miami doesn't have the draft capital and Lamar probably wouldn't want to play for the Jets or Cheaters. I’m not making a case for where he will or won’t end up. Just saying that I don’t want to see him or another FQB wind up in either place right now. As for fit, Miami’s offensive scheme and current roster are excellent. It would be difficult, but not impossible for Miami to acquire and pay him. Miami is spending large, but it’s not like they weren’t planning on having to pay a QB soon. And while losing this year’s first makes trading for him more difficult, how about this scenario?Ravens franchise tag him and he refuses to sign it. The draft is in April and he has until mid-July to sign a multi-year deal. That’s plenty of time for him to be traded for picks in 2024 and beyond. Quote
Doc Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Any why wouldn't they move a bunch of key players to snag him? I'll breathe lightly when this guy signs somewhere outside our division....even if he gets zero respect at this forum! Along with pretty much every other QB in the league not named Josh Allen. They would want a 1st rounder to try and get a new QB. 2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: I’m not making a case for where he will or won’t end up. Just saying that I don’t want to see him or another FQB wind up in either place right now. As for fit, Miami’s offensive scheme and current roster are excellent. It would be difficult, but not impossible for Miami to acquire and pay him. Miami is spending large, but it’s not like they weren’t planning on having to pay a QB soon. And while losing this year’s first makes trading for him more difficult, how about this scenario?Ravens franchise tag him and he refuses to sign it. The draft is in April and he has until mid-July to sign a multi-year deal. That’s plenty of time for him to be traded for picks in 2024 and beyond. I'm torn on whether I'd worry about him being on an AFCE team. I think he's starting to show that he's injury-prone and his contract demands will hamstring a team. Quote
Mynamemike Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 48 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: When I see stuff like this, it is assuming that Tua is done & will be retiring. That's really a stretch right now. If 2 weeks from now Tua announces his retirement, this makes sense, but right now it's premature. It’s the dolphins so it very well might not make sense. Which is why it makes sense. 🤔 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 Can’t wait for reports of Lamar impressing in Miami 1 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 Kind of amazing how hard Beane knocked it out of the park with the Allen pick. May end up being the only 1st round rookie QB from 2018 that makes it to their second contract with their team. 1 Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 I'll take my chance against Mr. 13 Quote
H2o Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 I don't think Miami is the AFCE team that makes a run at Lamar. I think it's the Jets. A healthy Breece Hall, Michael Carter, and Zonovan Knight at RB. A solid WR group with Wilson, Davis, Moore, Mims, and Berrios. A TE room with Uzomah and Conklin. A top 5 defense to go with it. Lamar in NY with the Jets makes too much sense. Johnson also already said that he is willing to pay whatever as he sees QB as the missing piece. I'm pretty confident this happens if the Ravens can't get him re-signed. 1 Quote
TheWeatherMan Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 I’d love to see how they structure that cap hit. LJ is going to get Mahomes money plus. They are going to have to sign Chubb as well, and that’s going to be big bucks. Quote
aristocrat Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 Fins would have to give up waddle and two firsts likely. But would ravens trade him in afc? Doubt it. They send him to nfc. Crazy idea? Lions trade Goff to ravens for Lamar. Lions send their two first this year. Quote
Doc Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: Fins would have to give up waddle and two firsts likely. But would ravens trade him in afc? Doubt it. They send him to nfc. Crazy idea? Lions trade Goff to ravens for Lamar. Lions send their two first this year. A first in 2024 and 2025 doesn't sound as appealing and neither does removing a major weapon for Lamar. And yes, I think they look to move him outside the AFC. Quote
MJS Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 We usually play Jackson well. Whatever. 1 1 Quote
Billzgobowlin Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 I'm good with that. Make them one dimensional Quote
BarleyNY Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Limeaid said: Roman’s offense is designed around his limitations. Greg Roman’s offenses have always done well for RBs and poorly for QBs. Check this out. His offenses are consistently top 10 rushing and bottom 10 passing. And that’s everywhere he has ever been. Quote
Chaos Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 8 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said: Sounds like a Rams move…. Trade for a QB, give all our picks away. Win a superbowl and be terrible for the next 5 years after. Rams went to two super bowls and won one, and so far have been bad for one year. Quote
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