They (Those Mean Old Democrats) Are Coming For Our Gas Stoves!!

[OrangeBills]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I've followed the nuclear industry for over 20 years as a potential investment opportunity.  And along the way I've heard glowing stories from lots of experts and promotors about how plants will be built and uranium demand will follow.  Sadly, all of the activity has been on the decommissioning side and environmentalist have killed the domestic uranium mining industry.   Leading suppliers Kazakhstan  and Canada.  While I agree using nuclear power for base load applications makes sense when are we as a nation getting started on the plan?  It takes maybe 12 to 15 years from concept to operations to bring a reactor online.  The clocks ticking and nothing much is happening.  It's now or never or we'll be facing an electric generation shortfall disaster without natgas and coal.  

 

the Left has ruined the Western Hemisphere.

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

14 minutes ago, OrangeBills said:

 

the Left has ruined the Western Hemisphere.

 

 

Thank God we have those rightist communists in China to save the Eastern Hemishphere.

(Do you actually read what you've written before clicking "Submit Reply?")

[Orlando Buffalo]

2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Thank God we have those rightist communists in China to save the Eastern Hemishphere.

(Do you actually read what you've written before clicking "Submit Reply?")

Do you think China is what we want? Your response shows the understanding of our nation of a 3 year old. 

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Do you think China is what we want?

 

You do live in Florida and defend Xi DeSantis every single day.

 

[T master]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

You do live in Florida and defend Xi DeSantis every single day.

 

 

And let the BS begin ...

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Precision]

I would love to see a study discussing the energy efficiency of gas versus electric taking into account the grid and distribution systems for both gas and electric. 

 

A house can use natural gas "as is" whereas electric needs to be generated somewhere and distributed to a house.  If the electric grid is using gas fired power plants the efficiency of the electric generation is under 65%.  Other electric generation may or may not be better, but you will still have losses of around 5% for transmission.  

 

Can't help but feel this is a step backwards as even though the amount of power generated could be the same the efficiency is likely much lower from electric generation and distribution.

[aristocrat]

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[B-Man]

 

But,, but, its an over-reaction !

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Irv]

Every BTU from gas has to be replaced.  How?  Think a bout that.  ***** solar?  Give me break.  

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 5/5/2023 at 8:41 AM, Precision said:

I would love to see a study discussing the energy efficiency of gas versus electric taking into account the grid and distribution systems for both gas and electric. 

 

A house can use natural gas "as is" whereas electric needs to be generated somewhere and distributed to a house.  If the electric grid is using gas fired power plants the efficiency of the electric generation is under 65%.  Other electric generation may or may not be better, but you will still have losses of around 5% for transmission.  

 

Can't help but feel this is a step backwards as even though the amount of power generated could be the same the efficiency is likely much lower from electric generation and distribution.

you would be exactly correct in your questioning.

 

to cook on a gas stove, one ignites the gas directly from the high efficiency burner to directly heat the pan.  The flame and burner design maximize efficiency of heat transfer to the pan. Because it’s instant control and intimate contact between heat source and pan it is efficient.

 

to cook on an electric stove, you will burn gas oil or coal to heat up water into steam that spins turbines to create electricity.  That energy is then transferred over high loss lines, to homes where electric coils need to be heated and have much Less efficiently heat transfer to the pan. (Unless you go for the really expensive high end induction stoves) 

 

in my college days I did a similar calculation for thermodynamics and electric scenario was 2-3 times the gas consumption. 

I’m sure the electrical utility companies that lined Hocul’s pockets approve. 

 

[T master]

2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

you would be exactly correct in your questioning.

 

to cook on a gas stove, one ignites the gas directly from the high efficiency burner to directly heat the pan.  The flame and burner design maximize efficiency of heat transfer to the pan. Because it’s instant control and intimate contact between heat source and pan it is efficient.

 

to cook on an electric stove, you will burn gas oil or coal to heat up water into steam that spins turbines to create electricity.  That energy is then transferred over high loss lines, to homes where electric coils need to be heated and have much Less efficiently heat transfer to the pan. (Unless you go for the really expensive high end induction stoves) 

 

in my college days I did a similar calculation for thermodynamics and electric scenario was 2-3 times the gas consumption. 

I’m sure the electrical utility companies that lined Hocul’s pockets approve. 

 

 

Nothing but net SWOOSH !!! & 1 !!!!

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

Asking the question of the dumbass that started this thread. 

[Wacka]

On 5/5/2023 at 10:08 AM, BillsFanNC said:

 

The looks like a diseased brain of some creature, definitely not  human.

I TA'd a class on physiology for possible PT majors and that looks more like a cat brain. We had a pair of cow lungs  in the lab  (preserved and dried of course). At first I thought they were styrofoam, they were so light, but then I realized they were real.

Edited May 9, 2023 by Wacka
Finally read the bottom. That is a walnut!

[B-Man]

 

 

 

                                           

 

 

 

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

1) "This is a right wing disinformation conspiracy theory"

 

2) "This isn't really happening"

 

3) "This is happening, and here's why it's good"

 

4) "If you oppose this happening, you are a bigot"

[ALF]

 

Toyota CEO: "This New Engine Will Destroy The Entire EV Industry!"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTawvzH0MQ4